(I was trying to tell Bill that despite the fact you,a ‘liberal’, admired Fenris and he’s a staunch conservative. IOW, that it isn’t the fact that Bill’sa ‘conservative’ that inspires your feelings. Ok?? here, have a slice of pear and wedge of Brie - are you of age?? if so, help yourself to the wine)
VarlosZ: I think you might be right about the naturalization. I was referring to people who are already citizens - I think once you are official, you can claim whatever political philosophy you want.
Must we play “More conservative than thou”? Aren’t we just a little old for that?
And again, if we do, who knows? You just might win the “More Right than Mussolini” contest. But I can articulate my position clearly, stating the reasons for my views, and have a chance of persuading people.
“I know you are, but what am I!” Nothing like a little schoolyard wit coming from a father of two, I suppose.
Wildest Bill, I think Guin has presented, now and in the past, some fairly cogent arguments to back her assessment of you. Simply shouting “you’re ugly too!” isn’t very impressive as a rebuttal, because we already know that even a baboon can throw feces. While Guin’s language might not have been very “ladylike,” it was nonetheless backed by the potent force of argument.
Frankly, you disgust me, and I’ve given some reasons why in my Pit thread. I don’t see you defending yourself there, and I don’t really expect you to. There’s really no defense you can make, because you are obviously guilty and unrepentant as charged. I always ask you if I have ever demanded behavior from you which Jesus has not demanded already, and you always ignore that question. I suspect that the real truth of the matter is that it is far easier for you to ignore me than to honestly face the question of where you will spend eternity.
Yea, I saw your thread. But not to many people have because it was lame. Too hard to research and everybody has done some wrong in their. I guess you forgot about who is ever without sin cast the first stone huh? Plus you didn’t even offer a prize. So maybe you are coming here to advertise it a little because it is dying fast and you want to know why? Because nobody is without sin buddy. Heck you could do a search on anybody and they would come off with the same. I never said I was perfect.
I mean why are you so worried about it? Does it bother you that I believe in Christ and I am not a perfect Christian(or at least in your mind). I mean you almost act like the devil himself trying to find fault in me to send me to an eternity in Hell. Well you know what the Devil is a pussy and God can squash him anytime he wants too. He was just a washed up angel.
So I choose to believe in God because it makes perfect sense. Am I bad Christian yea I would probably say that I am. So I will probably be on the lowest level in Heaven unless I get my act together. You know why because that is what the Bible promises. I don’t have to get Heaven by works it is by Faith. Don’t you get it? All a person has to do is believe that Christ died for him/her as their savior and they are promised eternal life in Heaven. Like I said if they just do the minimum they get the minimum. But I would rather have the minimun in Heaven then the maximum in firery torment. And some people are to vein to even except that(God’s gift to us).
Some people call it cheap grace. It wasn’t cheap at all. Christ made a humongus sacrafice for me. While I am not the best person in the world, at least I didn’t do what you did and reject the gift and believe in some stupid theory about how the world came about so I could live my life like I wanted to with no regret or consequence. Then to make myself feel better try to make other people feel bad about what they do.
You are one low lost dude ben. You are more warped than the weirdo in the ben movies that plays with the rats.
What you should be asking yourself is where you are going to land in the grand scheme of things at the end of your life? I mean what are you going to say what was so great about your life? HUH? Are you going to look at God and say I am sorry but I just didn’t believe all that stuff in the Bible because so many smart people on the SDMB conferred with my belief in Evolution. And it was supported by science yadayadayada.
Is that what you are going to say? And what do you think He is going to say to you huh? Something like get away from me because I never knew you. And then where are you going to spend eternity in huh buddy?
You better stop worrying about me and worrying about yourself because in this day time with planes flying into buildings and a biological war on the horizon you don’t really know how much time you have left to get right with your Maker now do you?
Ben, I am sorry I came down on you buddy like I did(which I really don’t like to do)but maybe it is time for you to start thinking about where your soul is going to end up instead of mine.
“Faith without works is as dead as a body without breath.”
James 1:28
“You say that you believe that Jesus si god? so do the demons in Hell, and they tremble!”
Also James, but I’m quoting from memory and can’t tell you chapter and verse.
Yes, Bill, Jesus’s atonement on the cross paid for your sins in full, BUT (it’s a big but) you are not off the hok. If you do not open your heart to Jesus and do not repent of your sins, then you cannot receive salvation. you must approach Jesus with a broken and contrite heart, with no excuses or rationalizations. Taking Jesus’s gift of salvation for granted is cheap grace.
{b]Ben**, could you knock off the Bill-baiting? Yes, he says a lot of stupid, spiteful things that do not reflect a Christian spirit, but the contstant, one-note harping on the guy is getting old. It’s one thing if you two get into a flame war over an issue, like Otto and I are doing, but going after Bill just to belittle him reflects more of your pettiness than his.
And I do think there are deferent rewards in Heaven. The Bible talks about them in many places. So I was thinking in my mind since Heaven is going to be 1500 miles high there would be different levels for the Christians that did the most good while they were here. But like I said that is just an idea of mine. I am not for sure. But I know there are different rewards.
I feel bad coming down so on hard on Ben I really don’t like to that.
Why did I have to wade through this entire thread? Now I am rewarded with the fact that an ugly image is struggling to form back in the grey matter of the type of community populated by WB appreciators. I fear it may surface tonight to haunt me in a nightmare. Esprix, I wish it were as you suggested and they were easily identifiable by their hoods. Unfortunately, I fear they have little difficulty “passing” - and I don’t doubt that they have plenty of company.
Please, WB, as a public service, identify your social circles so the rest of us can make sure we make sure to steer a wide berth.
Is there at least the hope that his supplements may cause sterility?
Final, minor nitpick: few of us are perfect typists (even when we do avail ourselves of the preview.;)) But Bill’s careless sloppiness is a consistent sign of his lack of respect for those to whom he directs his posts. (I almost slipped up in that final sentence and accused him of “communicating”!)