Well I used to be a real woman, until I figured out that I didn’t have to totally sacrifice my own enjoyment to please a man. I enjoy the giving head part, but the swallowing (indeed, the whole cum-in-the-mouth thing) totally RUINS it for me. I’m happy for you that you can deal with it, but for me, it totally destroys the sexual feeling, any pleasure, and makes me feel ill. Apparently this makes me less than a real woman :rolleyes: and to be a real woman I need to completely ignore my own pleasure in favor of the All Important Superior Male and his Absolute Need To Cum In A Particular Place.
[hijack] Hey Maastricht:
I used to live across the border in Liege (Luik) and I must say I enjoyed my days there in your wonderful cafes and on the Mississippi (Is that still around?) 
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OPalCat…
I guess I just don’t consider it “sacrificing my enjoyment”, I know it turns my man on and in exchange I get turned on knowing I am pleasing him, because thats what sex is all about, not self-gratification but MUTUAL-gratification.
Second, you think men get a taste of “heaven” when they go down on a woman? Whats worse, a couple of seconds to swallow or a buncha minutes with your whole face in something not-so-heavenly.
Trust me, I have been on THAT side too, and though SOME men “like” the taste, NOT all women taste good.
“I need to completely ignore my own pleasure in favor of the All Important Superior Male and his Absolute Need To Cum In A Particular Place”???!!!
WTF!
How about men ignoring thier own pleasure in favor of the All Powerful Female and Her Need To Have Some Guys Face In Her Nasty"
Whats right about that.
Anywho, whatever…
Have you ever tasted your own vaginal secretions? Because if you haven’t, and called it good, how can you expect someone else to not only taste them, but act as if they RELISH the experience on a fairly regular basis? The flavor of said fluids varies from girl to girl, but some are really fishtastic, and how do you tell someone you love such a thing? Answer: you don’t. You just find ways to avoid…
[sub]FYI, I personally dearly love to Yodel in the Canyon and all the wonderful juices that result. Just rephrasing for effect.[/sub]
HERE HERE CheapBastid!!!
By far, the BEST idiom I have ever heard was from a friend of mine, regarding his wife. His wife is one of my best friends in the world. His comment was that she was so talented, “you have to pull the sheets out of the crack in your ass afterwards.”
See, for you it obviously doesn’t gross you out. The mutual gratification is during the process–I just don’t like him to cum in my mouth. Sorry, but that’s the way it is. I used to do it anyway, but then I decided that my needs were important, too.
No, but if they don’t like it, they don’t have to do it and it doesn’t really MATTER to me.
The difference here is that I don’t think that a guy is not “a real man” if he doesn’t want to go down on me. You’re the one getting judgemental here, not me. If a guy doesn’t like it, that is fine with me. I don’t think any less of him for it. YOU on the other hand, think that I’m not a “real woman” because I won’t let a guy cum in my mouth. :rolleyes:
I have. Many, many times.
Hum, well, this’ll be an interesting experiment.
See, part of the reason we (okay, I) don’t answer these threads very often is that once a gay guy chimes in, the discussion often turns to giving blowjobs in addition to getting blowjobs. And a lot of straight guys get ished out by listening to a guy talk about how much he likes sucking dick.
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Seewhutimean?
Oh, well, in for a penny…
I can’t find my cites now, but there is at least some evidence that a higher percentage of gay men than straight women enjoy giving head. That may be because you know the equipment - you have the same set. (Different manufacturer, but it’s all compatible.) [sub](would that computers worked that way…)[/sub]
And there’s stigma. I’ve read about, but never encountered, out gay guys who flat won’t give head out of some fear for their masculinity - seems to be a thing of the past. But for some women, unfortunately, oral sex may always be degrading. There’s also the sheer difference in size between men and women. I don’t know how much difference there might be in the throat cavity, but even a half centimeter could make things a lot more comfortable. Perhaps equally importantly, a guy giving head is likely to be the same size (or bigger) than the guy he’s blowing, whereas women may feel more dominated and vulnerable (and not in a good way).
OK, back to the OP. I know I wouldn’t leave a guy in the (less likely) event he refused to blow me, and I agree with those who suspect that’s not the full issue. Strikes me that a lack of blowjobs is more a symptom than a disease.
Wow. No such thing as too much information in the thread, and I have a post to follow that kind of ties in with what I’ve been thinking.
NB: once upon a time, earlier today, the bottle of Vanilla Stoli was full, and now it’s not, so if I’m incoherent or violate any rules I’d just like to plead drunk.
I’ve had head from (pardon the diminutives but it’s easier to type) a bunch of girls and one boy.
With the girls it’s been nice, sometimes very nice, sometimes amazing.
With the boy, it’s never been less than “OH MY FREAKIN’ GAWD!!”.
In an ideal world, he’d hold seminars and teach them. Yes, I’d volunteer to help out in the class.
On the other hand, he’s never been able to get me all the way there, and the ladies have managed that quite nicely.
That said, oral sex wouldn’t make me leave a solid relationship. Not even really really good oral. When I’m in a committed relationship, I’m not even open to the possibility of any kind of sexual contact with anybody other than my partner (unless it’s something we’ve thoroughly discussed and decided to share, a threesome or a swing type thing).
It’s not the cause, it might be a symptom.
It could also, as has been mentioned above, be a way of dealing with what happened for the dumpee. For a quick lesson in how this works, find a really stupid straight guy (think Joey from “Friends”, only not sanitized for TV) and watch him hit on incredibly hot women. Check out how long it takes him to conclude that the ones who don’t respond are lesbians. For additional fun, do this in the company of a lesbian.
Oh, and as far as the whole taste thing goes, that’s why God invented flavoured condoms, people. Not a bad idea these days anyway.
<insert bill clinton joke here>
Now that thats out of the way. It all depends on the guy. Sex can be VERY important to some, not so important to others. I hightly doubt oral sex alone can make a man leave his wife. (At least any one who I would call a TRUE man)
I believe that it would be a number of factors that caused the said male to leave his wife. First and foremost the basis to any good relationship (IMHO) is communication and honesty. Perhaps there was a loss of communication or a betrayal of honesty? I do not know and do not attempt to guess.
However, had the entire relationship (and marrage) been based on sex, then loosing the relationship by sex is highly likely.
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I noticed the women I’ve been with would only do it once. I figured out that it was probably because I was too big for them and their mouth got stretched out too much.
just joking but someone had to say it
Yeah, I know that, that’s why your handle is ‘Oblong’