I can´t remember when my subscription ends, probably by mid April; I hope I have better luck this time with the credit card and I can pay directly; by the way let me thank [b[Sunfish** for helping me out last year.
Genuinely curious, not trying to stir shit. How is renewing a show of support? It would seem that it was more of an endorsement of the actions taken, especially within the 30 day window.
Seriously, I’m just curious as to the reasoning is all. I’m making no judgements either way.
I’ve been a lurker here for awhile, but since I rarely post I chose not to subscribe when the board when pay to post. But I’ve decided to show my support for the SDMB by joining today.
Mostly I just don’t get that much out of it anymore. GQ seems to be mostly the same 50 or so questions all the time (most of which were already answered in Cecil’s books, which hardly anyone seems to have read.) MPSIMS no longer holds me in thrall like it used to. (Now instead of “oh how interesting and/or juicy!” I usually think “Who cares? Why are you telling us this?”) IMHO and Cafe Society is stuff I can find pretty much anywhere, and the BBQ pit has always been sort of a disaster to me, so I never spent much time there to begin with.
People grow and change, etc etc. It’s not you, it’s me! I swear! (Ok, it’s you.)
Re: the recent etc. Yeah, that sort of sealed the deal. Not so much for the Tuba thing, but because of the way people are responding to it. I really feel I don’t fit in here anymore. I’ve found enough other boards and outside hobbies to keep myself occupied, and skimming the boards on occasion for free is still an option, so I’ll just do that if/when I feel like it. If the whole board folded in on itself and vanished in a puff of smoke I really wouldn’t miss it. I might even be secretly enthralled! ("We’re free! We’re free!)
I’m not entirely certain I’ll renew when the time comes. Part of it’s because I just spend way too much time farting around here when I could/should be doing something productive. But mostly, it’s That Which Shall Not Be Spoken Of. It’s not the incident itself, of which I know only the barest basics. It’s the strictly enforced secrecy and hiding of threads that don’t even give any real information that bothers me. The administration seems to be saying, “Oh, you don’t need to know anything, just trust us. We know what we’re doing. Well, okay, she may have commited a slight breach of trust. But you can trust us to have dealt with it fairly and appropriately. Oh, and by the way, let’s just pretend this never happened.” I have a hard time trusting someone who’s actively trying to prevent me from making an informed decision about whether or not I can trust them.
Call me cynical and suspicious, but I’ve never seen a “Don’t worry, baby, you can trust me,” situation turn out well. I’ve never known anyone to say, “Oh, you don’t need to ask those questions,” or try to stonewall me out of information unless they were trying to scam me. I’ve never seen anyone suggest sweeping something under the rug unless they’re trying to avoid doing the work to actually deal with the problem. So I’m leery of the way all this “unpleasantness” is being handled. Very, very leery.
They hid the threads for legal reasons. As they’ve said, over and over (and over). I’m a bit pissed at how childish people in general are being about this. TELL US NOW! I SAID NOW! when it’s been said over and over that they will release information when they can. It’s like reading the world of warcraft forums. Fucking annoying.
I didn’t say TELL ME NOW. I didn’t say there was fuckery afoot. I said that the comments thus far released are enough like the comments I tend to hear when there is fuckery afoot to give me pause.
The condescending tone of the announcement of what information the mods/admins do and don’t have gives me further pause. The concerns people have expressed about how much info She Who Shall Not Be Spoken Of would have access to are perfectly legitimate, and to have those legitmate concerns dismissed as “hysteria” is just plain insulting and disrespectful. I have reservations about giving my money to folks who think it’s okay to insult and disrespect their customers.
I’m not willing at this point to say that I’m not going to renew because they’re handling this badly. But neither am I willing at this point to commit to renewing because they’re sure to handle this well. Right now, a decision either way would be an unjustified rush to judgement.
No one said a word about you. I was careful NOT to mention you and to say “in general”. The threads about this situation tend to be very very whiny. I just happened to post after you did. Chill. I agree that it could be construed as shady.
The way it’s run.
The level of noise in threads rather than interesting stuff to read.
The amount of valuable posters (IMO) that have been banned for stupid reasons(IMO again).
The apparent apathy some of the main Admins have to their users.
There’s more but this isn’t the place. In fact if I do go it won’t be with a final flame out. I’ll most likely post a goodbye in an appropriate thread and don my occasional lurker hat.