You know what, kidneyfailure? (about China)

A cross-strait “beer summit,” eh?

You fed him, you get to pick up after him…

This thread has gotten weird.

You said it, man.

But I’m happy with how it turned out.

I came during the group hug.

Sorry.

Damn, it was that good, huh?

Hey, China Guy, where you going?

I have to say, I am pretty blown away by the conclusion of this thread. kidneyfailure, due to earlier, more intemperate posts of yours I formed an opinion of you and your attitudes that have been reversed by continued reading. I withdraw my earlier comments.

I concur with this very strongly. (Including the “mean-spirited shit” comment.)

Oh, we’ve seen it a million times. Into a seemingly unresolvable conflict walks the enigmatic Rand Rover, the “magical douchebag,” who applies his keen, almost supernatural absence of perception to remind everyone just how much worse things can *really *get.

I just came in here to say that I have spent 10+ years traveling in Asia, have many Chinese friends, who regularly travel to China on business and their experiences seem to align much more with Even Sven’s experiences than China Guy and KidneyFailure.

In my experience, anyone who tries to tell you that there isn’t racism in China is the one wearing the blinders. As for, ‘it’s not really racism, like in other parts of the world, it’s not meant maliciously’, that’s just bullshit, in my opinion.

That said, everyone has an opinion, blah, blah, takes all kinds to make a world, blah, blah.

I am glad that Even Sven is willing to speak honestly of her own experiences and isn’t being silenced by these other, self proclaimed, experts. You keep it up Even Sven!

We could do a whip round and come up with a few bucks to get ‘magical douchebag’ for his custom title.

You’re all welcome. Glad to be of service.

Oh, this reminds me. A few years ago I invited my half-Chinese friend to visit China with me (I’m ethnically Chinese). As we were walking around an outdoors market at some popular tourist attraction, merchants would yell prices for souvenirs to us in Chinese, and when they heard us speaking in English they would yell a higher price in English.

Where don’t they do that? That’s not racism, that’s just typical street vendors.

People used to yell “hello!” at me in Bulgaria, which was annoying, but not as annoying as when they would yell “I love you motherfucker!”, squeezing all the phrases of English they knew into one sentence.

Oh, I wasn’t complaining; I found it amusing and was just reminded of it. Please don’t take it the wrong way. My friend and I laughed about it.

That is awesome.

Now, to bring closure to this, the cuddliest pit thread ever, I would just like to say the following:

“I love you motherfuckers”.

I can’t make excuses for my earlier comments or behavior towards even sven in this and other threads. I guess all I can say is that when you get a guy who is passionate about something, is also a loudmouth, and is pretty stubborn, you get a guy like me who does get a bit “rabid” in his defense of something he feels is important to him. I know that’s not right, but I hope it’s at least understandable.

Also, this thread gave me a bit more insight into the type of treatment even sven gets, both on the board and IRL, which helped me have some more sympathy for her and her situation. I’ll try to be more understanding and sensitive in the future.

Meh. Even sven deserves whatever bad treatment she gets. She’s a horrible person.

Must you always project your own faults onto other people?