I always assumed it was a “trilled” R.
Well…ABT and the other spoiler site (Phoenix?) both got it wrong this week. What do you know?
SPOILER:
All that I have to say is that voting out Zoe wasn’t a last minute decision. I knew she was going when Zoe was talking to Robert as he was hacking away at the firewood. He said something to the effect of “I chopped all this wood, and I’m going to burn it in the next four days.” That little hint whooshed right over Zoe’s head, and he said it again, maybe twice.
Next four days. Not the next one day, which is what he’d have if he really thought he was going to be voted out the next day. Four days. As in, not the next tribal council, but the one after that. And as we keep seeing, anything can happen between now and then.
Looks like Pappy’s not so keen on dumping Sean at the first opportunity anymore.
Interesting episode.
SPOILERS!!!
Damn you, Sean! I’m beginning to think he’s actually going to make it to the Final Four. I still hope for his boot next week, though. Kathy was strangely quiet tonight, even though she’s the obvious Non-Alliance Alliance instigator behind Zoe’s boot. Going after Sean now would be the best strategic move, since he’s a serious immunity threat, while Robert and Tammy are effectively marginalized. Of course, getting that past Paschal is going to be tough, and aligning with Robert and Tammy would be suicide at this point. Ack, he’s going to go far! 
Damn you, John! If only you’d booted Rob’s lame ass instead of Blue Lagoon Boy, Sean would have been the first one kicked after the merge, you’d still have a solid-but-quiet alliance with the General and Tammy, and the game would be yours. Now I’m stuck with the disquieting prospect of a Kathy-Sean final. :eek:
I disagree. This might get him to the final round, but piss off enough people and they’ll never vote for you to win the million. How quickly we forget the “snake in the grass” speech…
I was surprised they voted off Zoe. Although she was so bitchy I can see why they’d want the General to stick around a few more days vs. Zoe. I don’t like Tammy anymore. She’d better keep winning immunity.
I also want to note that so far no one has dissed Sean for crying about his mama. You were merciless to gay John. Hypocrites. 
Also wanted to note that John cleaned up well. Looked a bit like Timothy Hutton sitting on the jury…
I hate to say it, but I’m starting to like Sean. My wife made an interesting point last night: maybe all his early shenanigans were just an attempt to be cool, to fit in, to not be a chump. I still haven’t totally forgiven him for all the slavery cracks, but I think this experience has changed him a bit. Then again, maybe I’ll be walking down the runway holding the roses and wearing the tiara at next year’s Mr. Gullible pageant.
Oh, and about the crying game. I bled all over John because he tried to be so tough and in control. He was the puppetmaster (sorry Rob). So when his puppets finally turned on him and he cried (away from his minions), I felt like I was watching A Christmas Story when Ralphie finally beats the snot out of Scott Farkas.
I have no issue with tears as such. Hell, put me out there for a month away from my family with minimal food, constant sun exposure, and backstabbing team mates and I’d be screaming for my mommy too.
Robert and Tammy are so screwed. They can’t even suck up well.
I admit the wife and I were laughing at the teary eyed antics of Sean and Pascal. Pascal, for a judge, is quite an idiot. First he allows himself to be led by the nose by Neleh. Then he goes from hating Sean and wanting him out- to loving Sean in like three days. Don’t forget his ultra-quick switcheroo on John after the reward challenge after Neleh bent his ear. Talk about gullible.
I was a bit depressed at the though of the finals- all of the worthy players do look like they will not make it. The last interesting question is when Sean and V will make their move, as they will drop at 5, and 4 respectively unless they break up the Pascal & Nelel block soon (Kathy will probably be in their pocket, and go out three). Pascal is just itching to lose to Neleh in the final two (which I believe has been Neleh’s plan all along).
Sean and V, if smart will need to recruit either Kathy (unlikely- as she would have to know they would screw her at 3, unless Sean then in turn screws V at 3 as she is too much of a threat before the jury, unlike the abrasive Kathy who would have just screwed the other former Rotu’s, hmm. . . . .). Or try to add the General or Tammy, which would be a threat down the road (but maybe a good jury move given the recent lack of love to the former alliance and the Zoe vs Tammy and the general hate fest.) The key for Sean and/or V is not to go up against Pascal or Neleh in the finals. If I am Sean, any of Tammy, the general or Kathy is a much better match up than Pascal, Neleh or V. But Sean isn’t nearly as bright as he thinks he is, so we will see.
BTW: John got his lampooning for acting out this tough guy act, then blurbering like a 6 year old when he got dumped. Yeesh, how embarassing. . . .
-me
Not nearly as bad as the transparent attempts of Zoe to ditch her old team with the dumbest, most obvious lies. Nice, those shell bracelet’s ought to fool them. Zoe’s and the General’s true colors came out- and I imagine both will be embarassed to see them on tape. Tammy on the other hand, has been impressive winning two challenges in a row (one under extreme pressure), and been pretty upright the whole time. Her only mistake was taking the general with her when talking to Neleh and her minion Pascal. Also the approach she usedd could have been better too :rolleyes: .
-me
PunditLisa wrote:
Yeah, but see, Sean really has no choice but to switch allegiances if he wants to make the finals. If he sticks with the P-N-K alliance, then he’s toast as soon as they get down to the five of them. By switching allegiances, he and V can constantly remain in the majority.
If Sean is smart, he and V will ally themselves with Robert and Tammy next week to eliminate Paschal or Neleh, and then make a secret deal with Kathy on the side. Kathy will go for it, as it will be her only chance to stay alive.
V is now my pick as the ultimate winner, with Sean finishing 2nd.
It would be fun to see somebody transfer their immunity during tribal council–just to see the looks on alliance member faces, as they figure out who to vote for without huddling.
But the only way a person would feel secure enough to give up immunity is if they’re a member of an alliance. It could be an interesting ploy to give it up to the non-member who’s not the designated bootee. For instance: if Vee had won the stilt challenge, she could have given her immunity to Rob, knowing that Tammy or Zoe was gone anyway. Perhaps a way of granting a favor that can be cashed in down the road.
So what’s the drill - either Rob or Tammy next week, and then one of Sean or V? How tight is Kathy with Neleh and Paschal?
I’m a little disappointed because this is the first time it had this far to go and there really wasn’t a soul I WANTED to win - even a little bit. Now it is almost a matter of which winner will piss me off the most.
Sure wouldn’t care for the prospect of appearing in Paschal’s courtroom.
Re tears, IMO there is a difference between crying about your mom, and crying to her.
The challenges were pretty lame. Hard to convey much drama through the filming and editing.
Don’t know if there is much point in a food auction. Everyone looks pretty well fed. Course, it looks ike next week Kathy tries to whack a shark.
John sure did clean up well.
Yeah, I agree. I’m starting to think also that maybe his assholishness was a bit overemphasized at first. Certainly the racist streak is there, but possibly it was exaggerated by selective editing, or was, to some degree, put-on for Vee’s benefit? He certainly seems to be a decent fellow now…
I think Tammy and Robert are toast. I beleive the other five are sincere in their alliance now. “Honesty” issues, and all that…maybe we should call them “The Moral Majority”
Tammy’s only hope is to “pull a Kelly” and win all the immunities from here on out. As soon as she loses, she’s gone. Robert is probably the next to go—he’s never been competitive in the challenges.
After that it gets complicated. We seem to have two alliances of two (N/P and S/V), and possibly another (S/P), and Kathy. Kathy is obviously the swing vote, but I think she’ll be disposed to stick with her former tribemates N and P.
So, possible scenario:
Once Tammy and Rob are gone, N/P/K get rid of Vee first, isolating Sean. Then N/P/S get rid of Kathy, leaving the three Bosom Buddies. Next, Paschal takes the bullet for his beloved Sweet Pea, leaving Neleh and Sean as the final two. Neleh wins hands down.
Pascal would do this for Neleh in a heartbeat. In fact, his general clingyness and devotion to her is just this side of dirty old man-dom.
As someone else pointed about in an earlier week’s Survivor thread, I wonder how his Neleh fixation is going over with his wife- especially if he loses the million to her?
-me
Okay, on further consideration, I doubt it will go down like this. I still think V goes first of the five, but then they’d have to realize that Sean is a major threat in the challenges and vote him off first.
Then for the final three, of course, the winner of the IC picks who goes with them. If Kathy wins, she takes either Neleh or Paschal. She’ll lose to either one. If either N or P win, they’ll take the other. As for which one of them the jury likes best…who knows?
The upshot is: I’m picking either Neleh or Paschal to win, but I don’t know which. (I’m rooting for Neleh, though.)
That’s my story, and I’m sticking to it…until I change my mind.
Am I the only one who thought of From Here to Eternity when Sean and Paschal won the reward challenge?
Has Sean ever been a factor in a winning challenge? It looked like in last night’s reward challenge, his role was to pour the coconut juice after Paschal rounded them up and cracked 'em open.
Or maybe he’s just sandbagging.
I’m cheering for Tammy from now on. I know she’s dead as soon as she messes up a challenge, but I like her aggressiveness and her screw-you attitude towards the peasants who hijacked the game. Go Tammy!
Oh, me too, minty. I’d love for Tammy to win. It’s too bad she doesn’t have a chance unless she wins ALL of the remaining Immunity Challenges. Could happen, I suppose, but not too bloody likely. Still…she’s a fighter. If anyone can pull it off, maybe she can. If she does, she just might get enough jury votes to win out of sheer respect for her bad-assedness.
(“Peasants”, indeed!:D)
jsc,
He hasn’t been much of a factor yet, but once all the real competitors are gone, he’ll be looking pretty good.
Kathy has to know that she has no chance in a final vote against Neleh or Paschal, which is why it will behoove her to make a secret pact with Sean. I think hard-driving Kathy is “in it to win it” and she will not graciously hand the game to N-P. She will seek a way to wind up in a final vote against Sean.
Disclaimer: Predictions ignore unpredictable immunity wins.
Lessee here, at the moment we’ve got 3 tight pairs (Sean-Vecepia, Paschal-Neleh, and Tammy-Robert, with the leaders listed first), and 1 free agent (Kathy), and they all know the situation. 2 of the pairs can team up and make sure they’re the final 4, but none of the pairs gains anything by partnering with Kathy because they can’t be sure the other 2 pairs won’t join forces. Kathy’s only hope is to try to prevent any 2-pair alliances from forming this week, but she doesn’t have the diplomatic skill to pull it off. Rather, they’ll all see her as unpredictable and the most likely power broker, and she’s out next time.
Next up: Dunno, depends on which 2 pairs decide to trust each other enough to form the final 4, and making that decision will be Sean, Paschal, and Tammy. Come to think of it, Sean and Paschal have a tighter bond than any other combination. Tammy and Robert go next, and the final 4 are Sean, Paschal, Vecepia, and Neleh, with immunity challenges deciding the final 2. Physical fitness matters at that point, so I’ll say Sean and Neleh are the finalists, with the more-likable Neleh winning among a jury of mainly-Sean-hating Rotus.