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Old 07-30-2010, 09:45 AM
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He Hate Me FF keeper league - year 8


Link to Yahoo League

Schedule
Offseason Trade Deadline: Monday 8/30/10
Keeper Declaration: Tuesday 8/31/10
Live Draft: Monday 9/6/10 (Labor Day) at 10:15pm Eastern

Keeper Rules
1. You can only keep a maximum of 3 players.
2. You can only keep players drafted after the third round. (Fourth rounders or later only.)
3. A player can only be kept a maximum of twice. (Making 3 total roster years.)
4. A kept player incures a two round penalty. (e.g: drafted in the 6th, kept in the 4th.)

Hall of Fame
Year 1 winner: mouthbreather
Year 2 winner: Spiritus Mundi
Year 3 winner: Spiritus Mundi
Year 4 winner: The Mad Hermit
Year 5 winner: Nurse Carmen
Year 6 winner: Weirddave
Year 7 winner: VarlosZ

Draft Order, Year 8
1. Munch
2. Really Not All That Bright
3. Nurse Carmen
4. Wilson
5. Ellis Dee
6. Spiritus Mundi
7. The Mad Hermit
8. Jules Andre
9. Bababooey
10. Hamlet
11. Weirddave
12. furt
13. Omniscient
14. VarlosZ

League History

2003 Season 1
The SDMB "He Hate Me, He Hate Me Not" Football League

2004 Season 2
Upcoming SDMB fantasy football league...
He Hate Me Keeper League Mid-Season Review
SDMB H.H.M. Keeper League Rules Ballot.

2005 Season 3
Yahoo fantasy football signup now open...
He Hate Me Keeper League Mid-Season Draft Review 2006
Season wrap-up here

2006 Season 4
He Hate Me FF keeper league
Season wrap-up here

2007 Season 5
He Hate Me So Bad FF keeper league
Season wrap-up here

2008 Season 6
He Hate Me Some Me FF Keeper League

2009 Season 7
He Hate Me FF keeper league - yr 7

Eligible Keepers

Players are listed with the round they were drafted last year. Subtract two rounds for keeping this year. Players listed as "kept last year" are in their final year of eligibility. NOTE: Bolded players are NOT recommendations about who you should keep. I bold interesting prospects so that everyone else can see them at a glance.

1. Off Constantly (Munch)
Steve Slaton (Hou - RB) 4th round - kept last year
Donald Brown (Ind - RB) 5th round
Julius Jones (Sea - RB) 6th round
Jamaal Charles (KC - RB) 7th round
Jay Cutler (Chi - QB) 8th round
Mark Sanchez (NYJ - QB) 11th round
Chris Brown (Hou - RB) 15th round

2. 9 Inch Neils (RNATB)
Braylon Edwards (NYJ - WR) 4th round
Matt Schaub (Hou - QB) 6th round - kept last year
Eli Manning (NYG - QB) 8th round
Steve Smith (NYG - WR) 9th round
Percy Harvin (Min - WR) 11th round
Carnell Williams (TB - RB) 12th round
Glen Coffee (SF - RB) 14th round

3. RealCarmenOfGenius (Nurse Carmen)
Anthony Gonzalez (Ind - WR) 4th round
Kellen Winslow (TB - TE) 5th round
Cedric Benson (Cin - RB) 6th round
Fred Jackson (Buf - RB) 7th round
Joe Flacco (Bal - QB) 9th round - kept last year
Minnesota (Min - DEF) 10th round
Eddie Royal (Den - WR) 11th round - kept last year
Heath Miller (Pit - TE) 12th round
Brian Robiskie (Cle - WR) 13th round
Jaymar Johnson (Min - WR) 16th round

4. Fourth & Nineteen (Wilson)
Tony Romo (Dal - QB) 4th round
Willie Parker (Was - RB) 5th round
Kevin Walter (Hou - WR) 6th round
Baltimore (Bal - DEF) 7th round
Zach Miller (Oak - TE) 9th round
Kyle Orton (Den - QB) 10th round
Justin Fargas (Oak - RB) 14th round

5. New York Fanboys (Ellis Dee)
LenDale White (Sea - RB) 4th round
Lee Evans (Buf - WR) 5th round
Steve Breaston (Ari - WR) 6th round
Brett Favre (Min - QB) 8th round
New York (NYJ - DEF) 10th round
Derrick Ward (TB - RB) 11th round - kept last year
Hakeem Nicks (NYG - WR) 12th round
Trent Edwards (Buf - QB) 13th round - kept last year
Ramses Barden (NYG - WR) 15th round

6. Spiritus Mundane (Spiritus Mundi)
Tony Gonzalez (Atl - TE) 4th round
Stephen Gostkowski (NE - K) 6th round
DeSean Jackson (Phi - WR) 8th round - kept last year
Matt Cassel (KC - QB) 9th round
Nate Burleson (Det - WR) 12th round

7. Crabby Hermits (The Mad Hermit)
Ben Roethlisberger (Pit - QB) 4th round
Santana Moss (Was - WR) 5th round
Donald Driver (GB - WR) 6th round
Domenik Hixon (NYG - WR) 7th round
Visanthe Shiancoe (Min - TE) 8th round
Ricky Williams (Mia - RB) 10th round
New England (NE - DEF) 14th round
BenJarvus Green-Ellis (NE - RB) 15th round
Mewelde Moore (Pit - RB) 16th round

8. Quentin's JAMmers (Jules Andre)
Knowshon Moreno (Den - RB) 4th round
Donnie Avery (StL - WR) 5th round
LeSean McCoy (Phi - RB) 6th round
David Garrard (Jac - QB) 8th round
Nate Washington (Ten - WR) 9th round
Tashard Choice (Dal - RB) 12th round
Washington (Was - DEF) 14th round

9. DrewBrees'Birthmark (Bababooey)
Antonio Bryant (Cin - WR) 4th round
Pittsburgh (Pit - DEF) 5th round
Kurt Warner (Ari - QB) 6th round - kept last year
Rob Bironas (Ten - K) 7th round
Tim Hightower (Ari - RB) 8th round - kept last year
Willis McGahee (Bal - RB) 9th round
Deion Branch (Sea - WR) 10th round
T.J. Duckett (Sea - RB) 11th round
Dallas (Dal - DEF) 13th round
Anthony Fasano (Mia - TE) 14th round
Shaun Hill (Det - QB) 15th round
John Kasay (Car - K) 16th round

10. Moridwon (Hamlet)
Carson Palmer (Cin - QB) 4th round
Beanie Wells (Ari - RB) 5th round
Matt Hasselbeck (Sea - QB) 6th round
Josh Morgan (SF - WR) 9th round
Jeremy Shockey (NO - TE) 10th round
Chaz Schilens (Oak - WR) 15th round
Ladell Betts (Was - RB) 16th round

11. Baltimore Weirdos (Weirddave)
Ray Rice (Bal - RB) 4th round
Santonio Holmes (NYJ - WR) 5th round
Philadelphia (Phi - DEF) 7th round
John Carlson (Sea - TE) 8th round
Sammy Morris (NE - RB) 9th round
David Akers (Phi - K) 10th round
Miles Austin (Dal - WR) 11th round
Mark Clayton (Bal - WR) 12th round

12. Fightin' Quakers (furt)
Donovan McNabb (Was - QB) 4th round
Rashard Mendenhall (Pit - RB) 5th round
Darren Sproles (SD - RB) 12th round - kept last year
Jeremy Maclin (Phi - WR) 13th round

13. Omni's Omnipotents (Omniscient)
Chris Johnson (Ten - RB) 5th round - kept last year
Jerricho Cotchery (NYJ - WR) 6th round
Philip Rivers (SD - QB) 7th round - kept last year
Ahmad Bradshaw (NYG - RB) 8th round
Michael Crabtree (SF - WR) 9th round
Matthew Stafford (Det - QB) 10th round
Laurence Maroney (NE - RB) 12th round

14. Varlos' Zzzzzzz (VarlosZ)
Roddy White (Atl - WR) 4th round - kept last year
Felix Jones (Dal - RB) 5th round
Aaron Rodgers (GB - QB) 6th round - kept last year
Ted Ginn Jr. (SF - WR) 8th round
Dustin Keller (NYJ - TE) 9th round
Matt Leinart (Ari - QB) 13th round
Mario Manningham (NYG - WR) 15th round

NOTICE: I just now spent several hours compiling the eligible keepers lists by cross-referencing last season's Final Rosters and Draft Results. This means if you traded for someone, they won't be in your list. It is up to everyone to let me know what potential keepers you traded for so they can be added to your list.

Everyone should check their final rosters from last year in the league overview page in Yahoo. There's a dropdown in the top right to pick which season you want to look at. From there you'll be able to see both Final Rosters and Draft Results. There are some big names that should be on these lists that aren't, so don't let your sweet keepers fall through the cracks!
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Old 07-30-2010, 09:46 AM
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Refresher course for offseason trading: (Mostly quotes from last years' thread.)

All players listed in the "eligible keepers" lists can be kept regardless of who owns their rights at the deadline. (But they can only be kept by whomever ends up owning the rights.) That means if you have four excellent keeper prospects, you can trade one away for picks instead of just losing him. (Since you can only keep three players.)

The three year term is tied to the NFL player, not the fantasy owner. If you acquire a guy who was kept last year, you only get to keep him once. (This year.)

You don't have to keep anyone. Meaning if you acquire the rights to a keeper through a trade and then later decide to not keep him, it doesn't have any effect on you. Right now your list of eligible keepers is simply the list of players you are allowed to keep. You can grow or shrink that list however you please during the trading period. Once the trading period ends, whatever players are left on your list, you can keep 0, 1, 2, or 3 of them. You are in no way obligated to keep a player you traded for.

For any keepers, if you have a high draft pick in that round, trade down for a lower one getting change back. That change back is free money, since your draft pick in that round will go toward the keeper no matter what. If you don't understand this, ask for clarification. This is the primary use of offseason trading.

Offseason trading goes through the end of the month. Once the trading period is officially over, only then do we declare who we actually want to keep. A week after that is the live draft, during which there is no official trading. Obviously I have no authority to prevent people making side deals during the live draft, but I would rather that doesn't happen because if a problem arises, I would have to arbitrate. And I'll be busy doing other things during the live draft. So not prohibited, but discouraged.

The official timeline is at the top of the OP, but if people have last minute deals they want to push through I'll extend the deadlines. I will not rules-lawyer you. The deadlines are a matter of convenience for me, to ensure I have plenty of time to get the bookeeping done during that busy week. (Several SDMB drafts are scheduled for that week.) If anyone doesn't submit their keepers on time I will pursue them up until the night before the draft via PM and/or email to give them every opportunity to keep who they want. Please work with me, though, to make my job easier.

NOTICE: I personally require that everyone always has exactly 16 draft picks. So any trades involving draft picks must send an equal number of picks both ways.

When you reach a trade agreement, email or PM me the details and I'll publish them for you. Do not post them yourself, as they may be disallowed and you'll have tipped your hand to the rest of the league.
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Old 07-30-2010, 09:47 AM
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Here's the fantasy trade calculator, plus the resulting draft pick value chart:
Code:
1- 1 ( 1): 1889    5- 1 ( 57): 519    9- 1 (113): 111   13- 1 (169): 32
1- 2 ( 2): 1823    5- 2 ( 58): 510    9- 2 (114): 107   13- 2 (170): 31
1- 3 ( 3): 1759    5- 3 ( 59): 500    9- 3 (115): 103   13- 3 (171): 29
1- 4 ( 4): 1699    5- 4 ( 60): 491    9- 4 (116): 100   13- 4 (172): 27
1- 5 ( 5): 1642    5- 5 ( 61): 482    9- 5 (117):  97   13- 5 (173): 25
1- 6 ( 6): 1587    5- 6 ( 62): 473    9- 6 (118):  94   13- 6 (174): 23
1- 7 ( 7): 1535    5- 7 ( 63): 464    9- 7 (119):  91   13- 7 (175): 21
1- 8 ( 8): 1485    5- 8 ( 64): 455    9- 8 (120):  88   13- 8 (176): 20
1- 9 ( 9): 1438    5- 9 ( 65): 446    9- 9 (121):  86   13- 9 (177): 18
1-10 (10): 1393    5-10 ( 66): 437    9-10 (122):  83   13-10 (178): 16
1-11 (11): 1351    5-11 ( 67): 428    9-11 (123):  81   13-11 (179): 14
1-12 (12): 1310    5-12 ( 68): 419    9-12 (124):  79   13-12 (180): 12
1-13 (13): 1272    5-13 ( 69): 410    9-13 (125):  77   13-13 (181): 10
1-14 (14): 1235    5-14 ( 70): 402    9-14 (126):  75   13-14 (182):  9

2- 1 (15): 1200    6- 1 ( 71): 393   10- 1 (127):  73   14- 1 (183):  7
2- 2 (16): 1167    6- 2 ( 72): 384   10- 2 (128):  72   14- 2 (184):  6
2- 3 (17): 1135    6- 3 ( 73): 375   10- 3 (129):  70   14- 3 (185):  4
2- 4 (18): 1105    6- 4 ( 74): 367   10- 4 (130):  69   14- 4 (186):  3
2- 5 (19): 1076    6- 5 ( 75): 358   10- 5 (131):  67   14- 5 (187):  2
2- 6 (20): 1049    6- 6 ( 76): 350   10- 6 (132):  66   14- 6 (188):  1
2- 7 (21): 1023    6- 7 ( 77): 341   10- 7 (133):  65   14- 7 (189):  1
2- 8 (22):  998    6- 8 ( 78): 333   10- 8 (134):  64   14- 8 (190):  1
2- 9 (23):  975    6- 9 ( 79): 325   10- 9 (135):  63   14- 9 (191):  0
2-10 (24):  952    6-10 ( 80): 316   10-10 (136):  62   14-10 (192):  0
2-11 (25):  931    6-11 ( 81): 308   10-11 (137):  61   14-11 (193):  0
2-12 (26):  910    6-12 ( 82): 300   10-12 (138):  61   14-12 (194):  0
2-13 (27):  890    6-13 ( 83): 292   10-13 (139):  60   14-13 (195):  0
2-14 (28):  872    6-14 ( 84): 284   10-14 (140):  59   14-14 (196):  0

3- 1 (29):  853    7- 1 ( 85): 276   11- 1 (141):  59   15- 1 (197):  0
3- 2 (30):  836    7- 2 ( 86): 268   11- 2 (142):  58   15- 2 (198):  0
3- 3 (31):  820    7- 3 ( 87): 261   11- 3 (143):  57   15- 3 (199):  0
3- 4 (32):  804    7- 4 ( 88): 253   11- 4 (144):  57   15- 4 (200):  0
3- 5 (33):  788    7- 5 ( 89): 246   11- 5 (145):  56   15- 5 (201):  0
3- 6 (34):  773    7- 6 ( 90): 239   11- 6 (146):  56   15- 6 (202):  0
3- 7 (35):  759    7- 7 ( 91): 231   11- 7 (147):  55   15- 7 (203):  0
3- 8 (36):  745    7- 8 ( 92): 224   11- 8 (148):  55   15- 8 (204):  0
3- 9 (37):  732    7- 9 ( 93): 217   11- 9 (149):  54   15- 9 (205):  0
3-10 (38):  719    7-10 ( 94): 211   11-10 (150):  53   15-10 (206):  0
3-11 (39):  707    7-11 ( 95): 204   11-11 (151):  53   15-11 (207):  0
3-12 (40):  694    7-12 ( 96): 197   11-12 (152):  52   15-12 (208):  0
3-13 (41):  682    7-13 ( 97): 191   11-13 (153):  52   15-13 (209):  0
3-14 (42):  671    7-14 ( 98): 185   11-14 (154):  51   15-14 (210):  0

4- 1 (43):  660    8- 1 ( 99): 179   12- 1 (155):  50   16- 1 (211):  0
4- 2 (44):  648    8- 2 (100): 173   12- 2 (156):  49   16- 2 (212):  0
4- 3 (45):  638    8- 3 (101): 167   12- 3 (157):  48   16- 3 (213):  0
4- 4 (46):  627    8- 4 (102): 161   12- 4 (158):  47   16- 4 (214):  0
4- 5 (47):  616    8- 5 (103): 156   12- 5 (159):  46   16- 5 (215):  0
4- 6 (48):  606    8- 6 (104): 151   12- 6 (160):  45   16- 6 (216):  0
4- 7 (49):  596    8- 7 (105): 146   12- 7 (161):  44   16- 7 (217):  0
4- 8 (50):  586    8- 8 (106): 141   12- 8 (162):  43   16- 8 (218):  0
4- 9 (51):  576    8- 9 (107): 136   12- 9 (163):  42   16- 9 (219):  0
4-10 (52):  566    8-10 (108): 131   12-10 (164):  40   16-10 (220):  0
4-11 (53):  557    8-11 (109): 127   12-11 (165):  39   16-11 (221):  0
4-12 (54):  547    8-12 (110): 122   12-12 (166):  37   16-12 (222):  0
4-13 (55):  538    8-13 (111): 118   12-13 (167):  36   16-13 (223):  0
4-14 (56):  528    8-14 (112): 114   12-14 (168):  34   16-14 (224):  0
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Old 07-30-2010, 09:52 AM
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We have 11 signed into the yahoo league so far. Currently missing:

Munch
Jules Andre
Bababooey

First alternate:

Jimmy Chitwood

If we still need more, first come first serve. Sending out emails and PMs now.
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Old 07-30-2010, 10:19 AM
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Matt Schaub is officially on the block. He'll cost you a swap of second-round picks*, and he'll cost you your fourth round pick (I kept him in the sixth last year).

Also, I scored the third most points last year and finished sixth. Be afraid. Be very afraaaaaid.

*Assuming swapping your second round pick is worth more than a spot or two to me.

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Old 07-30-2010, 12:57 PM
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I also have the rights to Vernon Davis, who was drafted in the 14th and can be kept in the 12th.


That gives me four keepers for sale. I'll listen to offers on the following. Looking to move up in odd-numbered rounds.

Rashard Mendenhall can be kept in the 3rd
Darren Sproles in the 10th
Jeremy Maclin in the 11th
Vernon Davis in the 12th

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Old 07-30-2010, 03:28 PM
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My 5th round pick (first overall) is on the table for a low 5th round pick. I'm also willing to trade away all even-round picks for those looking to maximize keeper values.

I'm also willing to trade away the top pick for the right offer.

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I will swap my (#2) 9th and 11th-round picks for peanuts, since I'll be using those for keepers. Prefer to swap them for a higher pick in the 6th or 8th.

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Old 07-30-2010, 05:40 PM
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I will swap my (#2) 9th and 11th-round picks for peanuts, since I'll be using those for keepers. Prefer to swap them for a higher pick in the 6th or 8th.
I think you mean your 7th and 9th?
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Howdy folks! Checking in. It's finally football time eh? Couldn't come soon enough.

Added to my keeper list are Matt Ryan (kept last year by Munch in the 12th) and Brent Celek (drafted last year by Munch in the 14th), both of whom I traded for last year.

Knowshon Moreno (drafted in the 4th) and LeSean McCoy (drafted in the 6th) are both available for trade, though I'm only looking to move one of the two.

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I also have the rights to Vernon Davis, who was drafted in the 14th and can be kept in the 12th.
Any chance you remember who you traded away to get him? Hamlet drafted him, so he may be missing a keeper too.
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Everyone is in except Bababooey. I just did a quick search to see if he is still an active poster, and it looks like he is (albeit sporadically) but he's having computer problems. I'll give him some time to get everything sorted out, but longer than a week will start to get problematic. Unfortunate timing.
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I will swap my (#2) 9th and 11th-round picks for peanuts, since I'll be using those for keepers. Prefer to swap them for a higher pick in the 6th or 8th.
I think you mean your 7th and 9th?
Yeah. The +2 thing always screws me up.
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Old 08-02-2010, 11:51 AM
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I also have the rights to Vernon Davis, who was drafted in the 14th and can be kept in the 12th.
Any chance you remember who you traded away to get him? Hamlet drafted him, so he may be missing a keeper too.
Sorry, don't. I think Mike Walker may have been involved, but he wasn't drafted.
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furt and I have agreed to swap our 9th and 10th round picks (ie., he moves up in the 9th, I move up in the 10th).
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furt and I have agreed to a trade as well:

I get Rashard Mendenhall and Vernon Davis.
furt gets Jamaal Charles.
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Old 08-02-2010, 02:19 PM
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furt and I have agreed to a trade as well:

I get Rashard Mendenhall and Vernon Davis.
furt gets Jamaal Charles.
Whoa ... I said I wanted to discuss a trade, as well as the other offer -- but you're jumping the gun a bit.
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furt and I have agreed to swap our 9th and 10th round picks (ie., he moves up in the 9th, I move up in the 10th).
Noted.

I can't reflect the draft pick trades in the league until we get a 14th manager, so after a couple of them I'll post updated draft pick "rosters" to the thread. Hopefully Bababooey gets his computer issues worked out soon.

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Old 08-02-2010, 02:34 PM
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furt and I have agreed to a trade as well:

I get Rashard Mendenhall and Vernon Davis.
furt gets Jamaal Charles.
Whoa ... I said I wanted to discuss a trade, as well as the other offer -- but you're jumping the gun a bit.
I was gonna say. Jamaal effing Charles?
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Old 08-08-2010, 09:37 PM
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*bump*
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Old 08-10-2010, 12:51 AM
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Just an FYI, all of my keepers are available for trade except Chris Johnson. I'll sit down in the next day or so to make some offers myself.

If anyone is eager to make a deal let me know.
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Old 08-10-2010, 09:20 AM
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Omni, I think I sent you some trade offers when this thread was started (it would have been via the league site). It was probably regarding draft picks, since we're on opposite ends of the draft.
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Old 08-11-2010, 12:37 AM
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Munch, I sent you a message in response to yours, did you get it? What did you think if you did?

To everyone else, let's go! It's August 10th! Let's see some action around here! I have a message for you furt, about a proposal. Let me know what you think.
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Omni, I think I sent you some trade offers when this thread was started (it would have been via the league site). It was probably regarding draft picks, since we're on opposite ends of the draft.
I don't see any offers, can you resend them to my email address? I'm game for keeper positioning type trades.

I'm kicking around the idea of offering up Philip Rivers for a high draft pick if anyone is interested, so ruminate on that folks.
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Old 08-11-2010, 02:40 PM
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Rivers' ADP is the end of the fourth round, so I doubt you'll get much for him as a fifth.
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Rivers' ADP is the end of the fourth round, so I doubt you'll get much for him as a fifth.
Um, that's in a 10-team standard Yahoo non-keeper league. He's averaging 37th overall. In a 14 team league that's the 9th pick in the 3rd round. It also discounts the fact that of the 35 people ranked ahead of him probably 2/3rds of them will be kept. If I don't keep Rivers there's virtually no chance he lasts through the second round in this league format.
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I've got him going 43rd overall, and there won't be many out of the 35 or 42 ranked ahead of him who get kept, because we can't keep 1st- or 2nd-round picks.
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I've got him going 43rd overall, and there won't be many out of the 35 or 42 ranked ahead of him who get kept, because we can't keep 1st- or 2nd-round picks.
So you're saying your right because your board agrees with it? Interesting argument.

Going by the Yahoo roster, half the guys with an ADP ahead of him will probably be keepers. Many of those guys are historical keepers and the rest are guys like Miles Austin, Jamaal Charles and Sidney Rice who are new to the scene. The only guys really out of the mix are stalwarts like Brady, Manning, Moss and two or three of the older RBs.
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because we can't keep 1st- or 2nd-round picks.
We can't keep 3rd rounders either.

I just realized that I never set the draft order. I'll try to take care of that tonight, along with updating for the draft pick trade that already went through upthread.

Also, I should really sit down and identify the trade offers I want to make and send them out.
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I've got him going 43rd overall, and there won't be many out of the 35 or 42 ranked ahead of him who get kept, because we can't keep 1st- or 2nd-round picks.
So you're saying your right because your board agrees with it? Interesting argument.
Not my board. "My" board as in this one.
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Things are way to quiet with this league. It depresses me. Last years league thread didn't hardly have a single in season post to it.
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I'll be more into it this year. Last year I didn't set a pre-draft order since there was no way I was missing it, but something came up and Yahoo drafted an AWFUL team for me. This time I'll set up the order, but almost certainly will make the draft.
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Same here, except I did manage to show up in the middle of it. I think my first actual pick was in the 6th or 7th round. Learned my lesson; preranking is vital no matter how certain you are you're going to be there.

Glad to see you got your computer fixed, btw.
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Things are way to quiet with this league. It depresses me. Last years league thread didn't hardly have a single in season post to it.
I think it's the Dope in general. There isn't even a preseason thread yet. I think people just haven't gotten into the NFL yet. I agree though, there absolutely needs to be more activity around here. Starting with people sending me offers to swap their first round pick with my eleventh. Shocked that those haven't started pouring in.
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How many people in this league no longer post on the Dope?
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Only Weirddave, IIRC, although I haven't seen Nurse Carmen or a few other people around in a while.
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How many people in this league no longer post on the Dope?
Of the six owners that haven't posted in this thread, I'm pretty sure Hamlet, The Mad Hermit, VarlosZ and NurseCarmen are still active.

Spiritus Mundi last posted in December; Weirddave is banned.

I'm here but don't have much to say - my horrible autodraft last year left me with no decent keeper prospects, except possibly Tony Romo with the 25th pick. With the amount of good keepers, he may be decent value there, but nothing to get excited about.
So I'm pretty much just waiting for the draft.

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Actually, now that I think about it, was it Mundi who said last year that he was having some medical issues? Hope he's okay.
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If anyone has an issue come up where they can't attend the draft, I can draft in your place. I like drafting and I'm pretty good at it - I'll do better than an autodraft. Just change your yahoo password to something generic and PM me your account details. Or I guess we might be able to do a comanagement thing, but I'd have to use a secondary account since I'll have my 4 leagues full.
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I'll go ahead and second SenorBeef on his offer to proxy draft. He'd be a fantastic choice if you couldn't make the draft and needed someone to take your spot. I say this because, as a competitor in the league, I'd want nothing more than for you to let SenorBeef draft for you. Since you'll end up with an entire team full of Browns, and they don't figure to be any good this season, we'd have one less team to worry about competing for the title this season.
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Well, it beats a team full of Raiders.
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Old 08-17-2010, 11:28 PM
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He's just trying to scare you because he knows a team I draft will crush him. I didn't really draft Browns last year - my auction league had none, my All-pro league only had them after my 13th round pick, my dynasty league pick of James Davis in the 8th round does look silly in retrospect but before he got hurt he appeared to be the starter. My teams are slightly more Browns-heavy than average, but looking at last year, not very much so.

Plus, I wouldn't show that bias when drafting for someone else. There's an appeal to be rooting in fantasy for the team I'm watching anyway - but after this draft my rooting interest in this team/league would be gone.
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Well, it beats a team full of Raiders.
I'd rather have the Raiders guys than the Browns. QB, RB(s), WRs, TE, all of it.
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He's just trying to scare you because he knows a team I draft will crush him.
No argument there, judging by the All-Pro league, your team would probably crush mine. And then, again judging by the All Pro league, I'd go on to win it all. Twice.
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And then cowardly slink off so that you didn't have to face my wrath this year!
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Weirddave and I have agreed to the following trade: he gets the keeper rights to Matt Schaub and my 2nd and 4th round picks. I get his 2nd and 4th round picks.

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*keeper declaration*


In case I forget later, I just wanted to get this on record: I'll be keeping Mario Manningham with my 13th Round pick, Matt Leinart with my 11th Round pick, and Aaron Rodgers with my 4th Round pick (Rodgers was kept last year).

Naturally, I reserve the right to modify my keepers up until the deadline.

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Good idea. I am keeping:

Steve Smith (NYG - WR) 7th round
Percy Harvin (Min - WR) 9th round
Carnell Williams (TB - RB) 10th round
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Oh, and I'd also mention that, while I'm hardly desperate to trade the rights to any of those three, interesting offers are always welcome.

Also, if anyone is interested in the rights to RB Felix Jones (3rd Rounder this year) or Wr Ted Ginn, Jr. (6th), they can be had for a song. Jones will definitely get enough touches to not be a total bust, and his upside is huge if Barber is hurt or ineffective. Ginn, due to his return yardage, is more valuable than you think. Even in a surprisingly poor receiving year, he was the 34th ranked WR in our league last season, making him a marginal starter or a very good first bench guy. IMO, that's pretty much his downside this year, and if he can just put up mediocre numbers on offense (like 600/2), he could very easily wind up in the top 24 or better, making him a flat-out fantasy starter. And, again, he has a very low downside for a potentially very useful player. Think about it.
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You forget that Ginn (and the other 'phins) all moved down a spot on the depth chart this year. He's fighting for the "starting" slot assignment.

As far as Jones goes, if this was the Dynasty league, I'd take him with a 3rd in a second.
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