I’ll try to put keeper lists together this weekend.
We’ll need to find a draft time - I don’t know what slots are already taken for other SDMB leagues?
We’re missing two; one is @Omniscient who I’m sure will join, the other is Hermits.
We actually only have one other SDMB league going, the dynasty league, and we draft in the thread over a week. Traditionally this league drafts the Tuesday after labor day, I think at 9 eastern.
So I grabbed the draft order template from the thread a couple of years ago, which is:
1: Winner of prior year’s consolation bracket.
2 - 8: Reverse order of bottom of standings
9 - 14: Reverse order of winner’s bracket
Which gives us:
Exploding Pancakes (SenorBeef)
Omnipotents (Omniscient)
Baltimore Weirdos (weirddave)
Hermits (The Mad Hermit)
Post Mahomes (Frosted glass?)
Chicago Cardinals (dalej42)
Disgruntled Goats (motu)
Battle Bastards
Fourth and Nineteen (Wilson)
Moridwon (Hamlet)
Nine Inch Neils (RNATB)
Spiritus Mundane (Spiritus Mundi)
Carcosa Yellow Kings (Munch)
Big Mack Attack (AlsoNamedBort/enalzi)
Remind me. Post Mahomes used to be owned by Sir T-Cups/Quack Attack’s wife, but Frosted Glass took it over a couple of years ago and kept the name, is that right?
I’m not sure who Battle Bastards are.
We’re missing Omni and The Mad Hermit. I’m pretty sure Omni is in, has anyone tried to contact Hermit?
I’m going to keep DeAndre Swift in the 2nd and JK Dobbins in the 10th.
I’m willing to trade out of my 1.01. Since I’m keeping two good RBs, taking a RB with the 1.01 seems like it’d make my team way RB heavy (although that’s a viable strategy) and it’s too early to take any other position, so I’m willing to trade down in exchange for, I guess, moving up in a bunch of other rounds. Except my second round pick will be used as a keeper, which limits how much value I can get in return for a pick swap. So, hmm…
I know we outlawed trading the rights for keepers that you aren’t going to keep because you already have 3 keepers, but can you trade a kept player for draft picks? I think that’s still legal, right? Anyway I’d be willing to move down in the first round in exchange for a good value keeper in later rounds. PM me if you’re interested in getting the 1.01
I would have to look it up but I don’t think we got rid of trading draft picks in general. What would’ve been the reason for that? I don’t think there’s anything controversial about, trading, say, the 1.01 and 5.01 for the 1.06 and 2.08 (that’s the sort of deal I was thinking I might make).
We did have a big thing about trading keeper rights for players you weren’t going to keep, which was explicitly allowed in the rules but there was a big fight when I actually did it. We also banned swapping picks in rounds you used to keep a player (like moving back from 2.04 to 2.14 to keep a player later in the second round, and getting value in some other round). You may be thinking of one of those rules.
Yeah - looks like that’s what I linked to. But I don’t know how we’d separate the two. If you’re going to ban trading picks when one team has a keeper in one of the rounds, we start getting into an unequal opportunity for other teams when trading “normal” picks and others can’t make an offer because they have a keeper. I’ll dig though and see if we ended up just banning the trade of picks outright, to avoid a bunch of arguing.
Separating the two is easy - as long as you’re not trading a pick that’s being used to keep a player, that’s not what’s going on.
If, as in an example I gave above, I tried the 1.01 and 5.01 for the 1.06 and 2.08 (numbers picked for example purposes), none of those picks are being used to keep a player, no gaming of the system is going on. I’m just willing to trade the right to move up a few spots in the first round for swapping a 2nd and 5th round pick as compensation. That’s a trade you can make in any league that has nothing to do with keepers. I’m not sure how you’re saying that’s inseparable from the rule against trading picks that are being used to keep players to move them around in the draft order for that round. They are not related.
It gets more complicated if someone were to trade me a keeper to compensate for moving up in the first round. I’m pretty sure that’s legal and doesn’t run afoul of either of the two rules you mentioned, but I’d have to dig up the wording of how that fits in with the rules. That would look something like: I give up the 1.01 for the 1.06, and in compensation the other owner trades me a player they kept. I have a vague memory of trades like that being explicitly legal from a long time ago, but I’m okay with avoiding that sort of deal if it’s controversial somehow. That doesn’t match either of the two cases I mentioned above - the keeper rights of a player you’re not keeping because they’d be your 4th+ keeper aren’t being traded, and you’re not trying to trade a kept pick within-rounds to move the bookkeeping pick around to gain an advantage.