He Hate Me FF keeper league - year 8

The Game Room
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Link to Yahoo League

Schedule
Offseason Trade Deadline: Monday 8/30/10
Keeper Declaration: Tuesday 8/31/10
Live Draft: Monday 9/6/10 (Labor Day) at 10:15pm Eastern

Keeper Rules

  1. You can only keep a maximum of 3 players.
  2. You can only keep players drafted after the third round. (Fourth rounders or later only.)
  3. A player can only be kept a maximum of twice. (Making 3 total roster years.)
  4. A kept player incures a two round penalty. (e.g: drafted in the 6th, kept in the 4th.)

Hall of Fame
Year 1 winner: mouthbreather
Year 2 winner: Spiritus Mundi
Year 3 winner: Spiritus Mundi
Year 4 winner: The Mad Hermit
Year 5 winner: Nurse Carmen
Year 6 winner: Weirddave
Year 7 winner: VarlosZ

Draft Order, Year 8

  1. Munch
  2. Really Not All That Bright
  3. Nurse Carmen
  4. Wilson
  5. Ellis Dee
  6. Spiritus Mundi
  7. The Mad Hermit
  8. Jules Andre
  9. Bababooey
  10. Hamlet
  11. Weirddave
  12. furt
  13. Omniscient
  14. VarlosZ

League History

2003 Season 1
The SDMB “He Hate Me, He Hate Me Not” Football League

2004 Season 2
Upcoming SDMB fantasy football league…
He Hate Me Keeper League Mid-Season Review
SDMB H.H.M. Keeper League Rules Ballot.

2005 Season 3
Yahoo fantasy football signup now open…
He Hate Me Keeper League Mid-Season Draft Review 2006
Season wrap-up [post=7136352]here[/post]

2006 Season 4
He Hate Me FF keeper league
Season wrap-up [post=8131857]here[/post]

2007 Season 5
He Hate Me So Bad FF keeper league
Season wrap-up [post=9386723]here[/post]

2008 Season 6
He Hate Me Some Me FF Keeper League

2009 Season 7
He Hate Me FF keeper league - yr 7

Eligible Keepers

Players are listed with the round they were drafted last year. Subtract two rounds for keeping this year. Players listed as “kept last year” are in their final year of eligibility. NOTE: Bolded players are NOT recommendations about who you should keep. I bold interesting prospects so that everyone else can see them at a glance.

  1. Off Constantly (Munch)
    Steve Slaton (Hou - RB) 4th round - kept last year
    Donald Brown (Ind - RB) 5th round
    Julius Jones (Sea - RB) 6th round
    Jamaal Charles (KC - RB) 7th round
    Jay Cutler (Chi - QB) 8th round
    Mark Sanchez (NYJ - QB) 11th round
    Chris Brown (Hou - RB) 15th round

  2. 9 Inch Neils (RNATB)
    Braylon Edwards (NYJ - WR) 4th round
    Matt Schaub (Hou - QB) 6th round - kept last year
    Eli Manning (NYG - QB) 8th round
    Steve Smith (NYG - WR) 9th round
    Percy Harvin (Min - WR) 11th round
    Carnell Williams (TB - RB) 12th round
    Glen Coffee (SF - RB) 14th round

  3. RealCarmenOfGenius (Nurse Carmen)
    Anthony Gonzalez (Ind - WR) 4th round
    Kellen Winslow (TB - TE) 5th round
    Cedric Benson (Cin - RB) 6th round
    Fred Jackson (Buf - RB) 7th round
    Joe Flacco (Bal - QB) 9th round - kept last year
    Minnesota (Min - DEF) 10th round
    Eddie Royal (Den - WR) 11th round - kept last year
    Heath Miller (Pit - TE) 12th round
    Brian Robiskie (Cle - WR) 13th round
    Jaymar Johnson (Min - WR) 16th round

  4. Fourth & Nineteen (Wilson)
    Tony Romo (Dal - QB) 4th round
    Willie Parker (Was - RB) 5th round
    Kevin Walter (Hou - WR) 6th round
    Baltimore (Bal - DEF) 7th round
    Zach Miller (Oak - TE) 9th round
    Kyle Orton (Den - QB) 10th round
    Justin Fargas (Oak - RB) 14th round

  5. New York Fanboys (Ellis Dee)
    LenDale White (Sea - RB) 4th round
    Lee Evans (Buf - WR) 5th round
    Steve Breaston (Ari - WR) 6th round
    Brett Favre (Min - QB) 8th round
    New York (NYJ - DEF) 10th round
    Derrick Ward (TB - RB) 11th round - kept last year
    Hakeem Nicks (NYG - WR) 12th round
    Trent Edwards (Buf - QB) 13th round - kept last year
    Ramses Barden (NYG - WR) 15th round

  6. Spiritus Mundane (Spiritus Mundi)
    Tony Gonzalez (Atl - TE) 4th round
    Stephen Gostkowski (NE - K) 6th round
    DeSean Jackson (Phi - WR) 8th round - kept last year
    Matt Cassel (KC - QB) 9th round
    Nate Burleson (Det - WR) 12th round

  7. Crabby Hermits (The Mad Hermit)
    Ben Roethlisberger (Pit - QB) 4th round
    Santana Moss (Was - WR) 5th round
    Donald Driver (GB - WR) 6th round
    Domenik Hixon (NYG - WR) 7th round
    Visanthe Shiancoe (Min - TE) 8th round
    Ricky Williams (Mia - RB) 10th round
    New England (NE - DEF) 14th round
    BenJarvus Green-Ellis (NE - RB) 15th round
    Mewelde Moore (Pit - RB) 16th round

  8. Quentin’s JAMmers (Jules Andre)
    Knowshon Moreno (Den - RB) 4th round
    Donnie Avery (StL - WR) 5th round
    LeSean McCoy (Phi - RB) 6th round
    David Garrard (Jac - QB) 8th round
    Nate Washington (Ten - WR) 9th round
    Tashard Choice (Dal - RB) 12th round
    Washington (Was - DEF) 14th round

  9. DrewBrees’Birthmark (Bababooey)
    Antonio Bryant (Cin - WR) 4th round
    Pittsburgh (Pit - DEF) 5th round
    Kurt Warner (Ari - QB) 6th round - kept last year
    Rob Bironas (Ten - K) 7th round
    Tim Hightower (Ari - RB) 8th round - kept last year
    Willis McGahee (Bal - RB) 9th round
    Deion Branch (Sea - WR) 10th round
    T.J. Duckett (Sea - RB) 11th round
    Dallas (Dal - DEF) 13th round
    Anthony Fasano (Mia - TE) 14th round
    Shaun Hill (Det - QB) 15th round
    John Kasay (Car - K) 16th round

  10. Moridwon (Hamlet)
    Carson Palmer (Cin - QB) 4th round
    Beanie Wells (Ari - RB) 5th round
    Matt Hasselbeck (Sea - QB) 6th round
    Josh Morgan (SF - WR) 9th round
    Jeremy Shockey (NO - TE) 10th round
    Chaz Schilens (Oak - WR) 15th round
    Ladell Betts (Was - RB) 16th round

  11. Baltimore Weirdos (Weirddave)
    Ray Rice (Bal - RB) 4th round
    Santonio Holmes (NYJ - WR) 5th round
    Philadelphia (Phi - DEF) 7th round
    John Carlson (Sea - TE) 8th round
    Sammy Morris (NE - RB) 9th round
    David Akers (Phi - K) 10th round
    Miles Austin (Dal - WR) 11th round
    Mark Clayton (Bal - WR) 12th round

  12. Fightin’ Quakers (furt)
    Donovan McNabb (Was - QB) 4th round
    Rashard Mendenhall (Pit - RB) 5th round
    Darren Sproles (SD - RB) 12th round - kept last year
    Jeremy Maclin (Phi - WR) 13th round

  13. Omni’s Omnipotents (Omniscient)
    Chris Johnson (Ten - RB) 5th round - kept last year
    Jerricho Cotchery (NYJ - WR) 6th round
    Philip Rivers (SD - QB) 7th round - kept last year
    Ahmad Bradshaw (NYG - RB) 8th round
    Michael Crabtree (SF - WR) 9th round
    Matthew Stafford (Det - QB) 10th round
    Laurence Maroney (NE - RB) 12th round

  14. Varlos’ Zzzzzzz (VarlosZ)
    Roddy White (Atl - WR) 4th round - kept last year
    Felix Jones (Dal - RB) 5th round
    Aaron Rodgers (GB - QB) 6th round - kept last year
    Ted Ginn Jr. (SF - WR) 8th round
    Dustin Keller (NYJ - TE) 9th round
    Matt Leinart (Ari - QB) 13th round
    Mario Manningham (NYG - WR) 15th round

NOTICE: I just now spent several hours compiling the eligible keepers lists by cross-referencing last season’s Final Rosters and Draft Results. This means if you traded for someone, they won’t be in your list. It is up to everyone to let me know what potential keepers you traded for so they can be added to your list.

Everyone should check their final rosters from last year in the league overview page in Yahoo. There’s a dropdown in the top right to pick which season you want to look at. From there you’ll be able to see both Final Rosters and Draft Results. There are some big names that should be on these lists that aren’t, so don’t let your sweet keepers fall through the cracks!

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Refresher course for offseason trading: (Mostly quotes from last years’ thread.)

All players listed in the “eligible keepers” lists can be kept regardless of who owns their rights at the deadline. (But they can only be kept by whomever ends up owning the rights.) That means if you have four excellent keeper prospects, you can trade one away for picks instead of just losing him. (Since you can only keep three players.)

The three year term is tied to the NFL player, not the fantasy owner. If you acquire a guy who was kept last year, you only get to keep him once. (This year.)

You don’t have to keep anyone. Meaning if you acquire the rights to a keeper through a trade and then later decide to not keep him, it doesn’t have any effect on you. Right now your list of eligible keepers is simply the list of players you are allowed to keep. You can grow or shrink that list however you please during the trading period. Once the trading period ends, whatever players are left on your list, you can keep 0, 1, 2, or 3 of them. You are in no way obligated to keep a player you traded for.

For any keepers, if you have a high draft pick in that round, trade down for a lower one getting change back. That change back is free money, since your draft pick in that round will go toward the keeper no matter what. If you don’t understand this, ask for clarification. This is the primary use of offseason trading.

Offseason trading goes through the end of the month. Once the trading period is officially over, only then do we declare who we actually want to keep. A week after that is the live draft, during which there is no official trading. Obviously I have no authority to prevent people making side deals during the live draft, but I would rather that doesn’t happen because if a problem arises, I would have to arbitrate. And I’ll be busy doing other things during the live draft. So not prohibited, but discouraged.

The official timeline is at the top of the OP, but if people have last minute deals they want to push through I’ll extend the deadlines. I will not rules-lawyer you. The deadlines are a matter of convenience for me, to ensure I have plenty of time to get the bookeeping done during that busy week. (Several SDMB drafts are scheduled for that week.) If anyone doesn’t submit their keepers on time I will pursue them up until the night before the draft via PM and/or email to give them every opportunity to keep who they want. Please work with me, though, to make my job easier.

NOTICE: I personally require that everyone always has exactly 16 draft picks. So any trades involving draft picks must send an equal number of picks both ways.

When you reach a trade agreement, email or PM me the details and I’ll publish them for you. Do not post them yourself, as they may be disallowed and you’ll have tipped your hand to the rest of the league.

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Here’s the fantasy trade calculator, plus the resulting draft pick value chart:


1- 1 ( 1): 1889    5- 1 ( 57): 519    9- 1 (113): 111   13- 1 (169): 32
1- 2 ( 2): 1823    5- 2 ( 58): 510    9- 2 (114): 107   13- 2 (170): 31
1- 3 ( 3): 1759    5- 3 ( 59): 500    9- 3 (115): 103   13- 3 (171): 29
1- 4 ( 4): 1699    5- 4 ( 60): 491    9- 4 (116): 100   13- 4 (172): 27
1- 5 ( 5): 1642    5- 5 ( 61): 482    9- 5 (117):  97   13- 5 (173): 25
1- 6 ( 6): 1587    5- 6 ( 62): 473    9- 6 (118):  94   13- 6 (174): 23
1- 7 ( 7): 1535    5- 7 ( 63): 464    9- 7 (119):  91   13- 7 (175): 21
1- 8 ( 8): 1485    5- 8 ( 64): 455    9- 8 (120):  88   13- 8 (176): 20
1- 9 ( 9): 1438    5- 9 ( 65): 446    9- 9 (121):  86   13- 9 (177): 18
1-10 (10): 1393    5-10 ( 66): 437    9-10 (122):  83   13-10 (178): 16
1-11 (11): 1351    5-11 ( 67): 428    9-11 (123):  81   13-11 (179): 14
1-12 (12): 1310    5-12 ( 68): 419    9-12 (124):  79   13-12 (180): 12
1-13 (13): 1272    5-13 ( 69): 410    9-13 (125):  77   13-13 (181): 10
1-14 (14): 1235    5-14 ( 70): 402    9-14 (126):  75   13-14 (182):  9

2- 1 (15): 1200    6- 1 ( 71): 393   10- 1 (127):  73   14- 1 (183):  7
2- 2 (16): 1167    6- 2 ( 72): 384   10- 2 (128):  72   14- 2 (184):  6
2- 3 (17): 1135    6- 3 ( 73): 375   10- 3 (129):  70   14- 3 (185):  4
2- 4 (18): 1105    6- 4 ( 74): 367   10- 4 (130):  69   14- 4 (186):  3
2- 5 (19): 1076    6- 5 ( 75): 358   10- 5 (131):  67   14- 5 (187):  2
2- 6 (20): 1049    6- 6 ( 76): 350   10- 6 (132):  66   14- 6 (188):  1
2- 7 (21): 1023    6- 7 ( 77): 341   10- 7 (133):  65   14- 7 (189):  1
2- 8 (22):  998    6- 8 ( 78): 333   10- 8 (134):  64   14- 8 (190):  1
2- 9 (23):  975    6- 9 ( 79): 325   10- 9 (135):  63   14- 9 (191):  0
2-10 (24):  952    6-10 ( 80): 316   10-10 (136):  62   14-10 (192):  0
2-11 (25):  931    6-11 ( 81): 308   10-11 (137):  61   14-11 (193):  0
2-12 (26):  910    6-12 ( 82): 300   10-12 (138):  61   14-12 (194):  0
2-13 (27):  890    6-13 ( 83): 292   10-13 (139):  60   14-13 (195):  0
2-14 (28):  872    6-14 ( 84): 284   10-14 (140):  59   14-14 (196):  0

3- 1 (29):  853    7- 1 ( 85): 276   11- 1 (141):  59   15- 1 (197):  0
3- 2 (30):  836    7- 2 ( 86): 268   11- 2 (142):  58   15- 2 (198):  0
3- 3 (31):  820    7- 3 ( 87): 261   11- 3 (143):  57   15- 3 (199):  0
3- 4 (32):  804    7- 4 ( 88): 253   11- 4 (144):  57   15- 4 (200):  0
3- 5 (33):  788    7- 5 ( 89): 246   11- 5 (145):  56   15- 5 (201):  0
3- 6 (34):  773    7- 6 ( 90): 239   11- 6 (146):  56   15- 6 (202):  0
3- 7 (35):  759    7- 7 ( 91): 231   11- 7 (147):  55   15- 7 (203):  0
3- 8 (36):  745    7- 8 ( 92): 224   11- 8 (148):  55   15- 8 (204):  0
3- 9 (37):  732    7- 9 ( 93): 217   11- 9 (149):  54   15- 9 (205):  0
3-10 (38):  719    7-10 ( 94): 211   11-10 (150):  53   15-10 (206):  0
3-11 (39):  707    7-11 ( 95): 204   11-11 (151):  53   15-11 (207):  0
3-12 (40):  694    7-12 ( 96): 197   11-12 (152):  52   15-12 (208):  0
3-13 (41):  682    7-13 ( 97): 191   11-13 (153):  52   15-13 (209):  0
3-14 (42):  671    7-14 ( 98): 185   11-14 (154):  51   15-14 (210):  0

4- 1 (43):  660    8- 1 ( 99): 179   12- 1 (155):  50   16- 1 (211):  0
4- 2 (44):  648    8- 2 (100): 173   12- 2 (156):  49   16- 2 (212):  0
4- 3 (45):  638    8- 3 (101): 167   12- 3 (157):  48   16- 3 (213):  0
4- 4 (46):  627    8- 4 (102): 161   12- 4 (158):  47   16- 4 (214):  0
4- 5 (47):  616    8- 5 (103): 156   12- 5 (159):  46   16- 5 (215):  0
4- 6 (48):  606    8- 6 (104): 151   12- 6 (160):  45   16- 6 (216):  0
4- 7 (49):  596    8- 7 (105): 146   12- 7 (161):  44   16- 7 (217):  0
4- 8 (50):  586    8- 8 (106): 141   12- 8 (162):  43   16- 8 (218):  0
4- 9 (51):  576    8- 9 (107): 136   12- 9 (163):  42   16- 9 (219):  0
4-10 (52):  566    8-10 (108): 131   12-10 (164):  40   16-10 (220):  0
4-11 (53):  557    8-11 (109): 127   12-11 (165):  39   16-11 (221):  0
4-12 (54):  547    8-12 (110): 122   12-12 (166):  37   16-12 (222):  0
4-13 (55):  538    8-13 (111): 118   12-13 (167):  36   16-13 (223):  0
4-14 (56):  528    8-14 (112): 114   12-14 (168):  34   16-14 (224):  0
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We have 11 signed into the yahoo league so far. Currently missing:

Munch
Jules Andre
Bababooey

First alternate:

Jimmy Chitwood

If we still need more, first come first serve. Sending out emails and PMs now.

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Matt Schaub is officially on the block. He’ll cost you a swap of second-round picks*, and he’ll cost you your fourth round pick (I kept him in the sixth last year).

Also, I scored the third most points last year and finished sixth. Be afraid. Be very afraaaaaid.

*Assuming swapping your second round pick is worth more than a spot or two to me.

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I also have the rights to Vernon Davis, who was drafted in the 14th and can be kept in the 12th.
That gives me four keepers for sale. I’ll listen to offers on the following. Looking to move up in odd-numbered rounds.

Rashard Mendenhall can be kept in the 3rd
Darren Sproles in the 10th
Jeremy Maclin in the 11th
Vernon Davis in the 12th

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My 5th round pick (first overall) is on the table for a low 5th round pick. I’m also willing to trade away all even-round picks for those looking to maximize keeper values.

I’m also willing to trade away the top pick for the right offer.

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I will swap my (#2) 9th and 11th-round picks for peanuts, since I’ll be using those for keepers. Prefer to swap them for a higher pick in the 6th or 8th.

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I think you mean your 7th and 9th?

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Howdy folks! Checking in. It’s finally football time eh? Couldn’t come soon enough.

Added to my keeper list are Matt Ryan (kept last year by Munch in the 12th) and Brent Celek (drafted last year by Munch in the 14th), both of whom I traded for last year.

Knowshon Moreno (drafted in the 4th) and LeSean McCoy (drafted in the 6th) are both available for trade, though I’m only looking to move one of the two.

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Any chance you remember who you traded away to get him? Hamlet drafted him, so he may be missing a keeper too.

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Everyone is in except Bababooey. I just did a quick search to see if he is still an active poster, and it looks like he is (albeit sporadically) but he’s having computer problems. I’ll give him some time to get everything sorted out, but longer than a week will start to get problematic. Unfortunate timing.

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Yeah. The +2 thing always screws me up. :smack:

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Sorry, don’t. I think Mike Walker may have been involved, but he wasn’t drafted.

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furt and I have agreed to swap our 9th and 10th round picks (ie., he moves up in the 9th, I move up in the 10th).

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furt and I have agreed to a trade as well:

I get Rashard Mendenhall and Vernon Davis.
furt gets Jamaal Charles.

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Whoa … I said I wanted to discuss a trade, as well as the other offer – but you’re jumping the gun a bit.

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Noted.

I can’t reflect the draft pick trades in the league until we get a 14th manager, so after a couple of them I’ll post updated draft pick “rosters” to the thread. Hopefully Bababooey gets his computer issues worked out soon.

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I was gonna say. Jamaal effing Charles?

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bump