One thing that bothered me.
Prez to ex: Who told you about the evacuation?
Ex: Somebody who doesn’t like you.
Prez: Give me a name.
Ex: I have connections that could help you.
Prez: Give me a name!
Ex: Give me a phone.
Prez: OK!
He gave her a hotline into this whole fiasco and she gave him-- nothing. I expected her to name Ensign Ro (which could later turn out to be a lie. I trust no one.) But the Prez just caved in to that manupilating bitch with a “you better not be manipulating me!”
Are there 24 episodes? Because if there are, Resa giving up BlondieDad so early signals double, triple, quadruple cross to me.
I think the Evil Dad/Terrorist Dad plot lines are connected. If I remember correctly, at the beginning, the mother of the little girl was wrapping a wedding gift for a wedding she and her husband were going to that day. I remember thinking that the bomb was in that package cause she was so defensive about it, saying it needed to be wrapped just right, but then the father turned out to be a psycho, so that nixed that idea. But they were going to the wedding, so it’s possible that the two are connected.
As for ex-wife, I think she’s the head of the movement to take over the presidency. How would she know to call in a favor to learn about the movement of the troops out of LA? Was she watching ATVs drive by as bases were evacuated or something? There’s no way she could’ve found out about the evacuation unless she knew about it beforehand. Or unless she casually talks to all of Palmer’s cabinet on a regular basis.
I agree that Jack is a badass. The smirk at the end of the episode was priceless.
Evil Dad clearly knows about the bomb: After all, he’s frantic to get his daughter and get out of town and into Mexico city. Why would he need to do that? It’s not like the law is after him or anything. I think he knows exactly what’s going on.
It’s going to turn out that Evil dad and Terrorist dad are business associates of some kind, and are in this for the money. I doubt if they have political issues - I just think they’ve been paid off with a huge wad of cash.
Here’s what I think is going to happen - Evil Dad is going to capture Kim and her boyfriend. Terrorist Dad is going to make a break from Tony and take his daughter along. They’re all going to meet up wherever Jack is, and the Terrorist Dad’s oldest daughter is going to wind up with Jack - maybe not as a romantic thing (that would be hard to pull off now), but certainly as an ally. Somehow these plot threads have to come together.
Oh, and I think Kim’s boyfriend may turn out to be a pretty good badass himself. After all, what kind of man would Kim be attracted to, with Jack as her father? And we already know he has some serious ass-kicking skills. I think it’d be pretty cool if we saw Jack, Kim, the Eldest Terrorist Daughter, and the young Badass all working together. That’s probably a longshot, but it’s fun speculation.
Eric Rayburn and her could be in cahoots. Eric was canned pretty early in the season, and I’m guessing he’s going to turn up again.
I’ve been wondering the same thing. I’m guessing that the next move in the Kim sub-plot will be little girl whining for her mommy so much that Kim and Scruffy decide to go back to the house and check on Battered Mom. And while there, they will probably run into Evil Dad yet again.
No… don’t let it be… NO… NOOO… NOOOOOOOOOO!!!
[Shatner quivering rage]
KHAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNN!!!
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One aspect of this whole speculation that doesn’t make sense is…
… if Terrorist Dad knows about the bomb, why isn’t he in a hurry to leave town with his family? Just the opposite was occurring with the wedding taking place the same day as the nuclear bomb is scheduled to go off.
It’s possible he doesn’t know the plans. He might be financing a terrorist group without knowing that they will nuke his hometown or he might be doing something criminal without knowing the cash goes to terrorists. The guys who blew up CTU didn’t know the big picture and he might not either. I still don’t discount Reza as part of the conspiracy.
I think evil dad is anxious to get out of town to Mexico City because he wants his daughter, and the nurse just said that she couldn’t be released from the hospital until the question about her concussion was resolved. He doesn’t want to go to jail, so he’s high-tailing it out of there.
Regarding Terrorist dad… now that he’s supposedly been ratted out by Reza, how can Reza expect to have any kind of relationship with blondie daughter? “That does put a damper on our relationship”. I think Reza’s parents are going to be involved somehow.
I LOVE this show! I wish I had watched it last season.
It’s available on DVD, so I would assume places like Blockbuster would have it for rent.
You should try and watch the first season. It really gives you more insight into Jack and Nina’s relationship, Palmer and his ex-wife’s relationship, and Jack and Palmer’s relationship.
You can rent it at Blockbuster, but it takes some effort. I have a friend who’s doing that right now and he has to call in pretty frequently to see if the disc he needs is in stock.
The great thing about watching the DVD version is that you can plow through great chunks at a time, and you pick up more.
I think it took me two glorious weeks to get through the first season. You do notice, however, that there’s not a lot of forward planning beyond the next few episodes. This insight allows me to relax a bit and enjoy the short-term experience without continually bugging out about what’s behind every little move or facial tic.
The rule is, everybody looks suspicious, everyone can be assumed to be guilty until someone pulls an obvious shady move. Then we know that person’s a good guy. Enemies are tougher to identify, because you have to wait for some sort of kindhearted gesture, which are few and far between.
You can’t just rent the whole thing at once? How many discs are in the set? How many discs can you get at one time?
Hmm. Better to make friends with someone who has purchased it, I think.
I like the bit in the opening credits… “People I work with may be involved…” with that quick shot of Nina. But it took, what, 22 hours for anyone to realize SHE was the mole?
Everyone was just soooo sure it was Tony or Mason.
That may be a localized phenomenon, but he claims they’ll only give him two at a time and the don’t often have the ones he needs in stock, having only a few copies of the whole set. I was lucky enough to have a good friend take the plunge, but $45 really isn’t that bad for 18+ hours of fun. You’re gonna spend $25 or so to rent it anyway.
I think he also did something really bad to his wife since we last saw her – hurt her really badly, or perhaps killed her. This would definitely be a motivation to high-tail it to Mexico, too.
I remember reading an article somewhere (sorry, no cite) that said the producers and writers didn’t actually decide who the CTU mole was going to end up being until just a few episodes from the end.
If this is true, I would imagine they had plotted out a few different senarios for each different possibility to be the bad guy, and towards the end based on audience reaction and who knows what other considerations, made it Nina.
I suppose this method makes it awful difficult to “pick up clues” from the opening credits.
In addition to what richardb wrote AND the fact that the bad guys ordered Jack to shoot Nina, the very fact that the opening credits had that quick shot of her made it less likely to many of us that she was the mole. The show had so many head fakes, it seemed likely that the opening credits was just another one.
C’mon, folks. Didn’t you see the really remarkable, once in a lifetime, bonus feature of this episode? Kim did something intelligent. Really! She had Miguel take the keys out of EvilDad’s pocket. C’mon we’ve been slamming her all year and then she goes and does something not utterly stupid and nobody mentions it?
I’m sure she’ll revert to type next week, but still.
Good episode, for one in which nobody gets killed. How often does that happen?
Um, once she takes the keys from EvilDad and steals his car, she’s on the hook for Grand Theft Auto as well as kidnapping and assault (well, her bf for assault, I guess). She’s going to need all of her daddy’s connections to not go to jail for a long time after this is all over. (BTW, I don’t believe “He hit his daughter” is a valid defense for all the crimes Kim is committing now. IMO, of course.)
I read it too, in Entertainment Weekly just before this season began. I wish they’d followed another brainstorming suggestion of having Jack’s wife sleeping in a ditch instead of giving her the amnesia, but oh well.
Giving Kim the benefit of the doubt just this once: we have no idea whether that car is on the OnStar system and we don’t even know if Kim knows about the system at all. And this time she will have a large head start.
But it’s so early that many, mnay things have to go wrong for her before the end. Like the little girl who shows symptoms only at certain convenient times for the script.
