You suppose Jack and Curtis and Tony ever shot the same guy at the same time?
I told Mrs. Plant, “They set off the bank alarm. While the bad guys kill the cops, they will escape.”
She replied, “Good plan.”
That’s not safe!
You’re thinking of Edgar. I’ve mixed those names up before, too.
It might be less confusiong to use their stage names: Snack Bower and Black Bauer.
Snack Bauer is dead. Black Bauer is alive, but I was also wondering why he wasn’t in on any action.
I didn’t really connect the 23 directly to Lost –
I was thinking of it as a straight up William S. Burroughs nod, since both Kiefer and Weller have played old Bill, and he’s the originator of the 23 fixation.
Curtis was on his way back from something or other at the time CTU was attacked, and, as has been pointed out, met up with Jack at the gas distribution center.
In fact, do we have any reason to think that Curtis had made it back to CTU by the time Homeland Security took over? Maybe Curtis has turned rogue and will wind up hooking up with Jack at just the right time…
Yeah, but that could have just been his parking permit for Terrorist Parking Lot #4.
Hell, I’ve had irrelevant stuff on my dash for years.
Remember, Robocop is driving Evelyn’s car, and she had one of those stickers by virture of working with the first lady.
This episode was a fine example of how Jack, as much as we all love the guy, is sometimes dumb as a brick. Or at least he doesn’t think very far ahead. First, as pointed out by others, he rushes to get the evidence at the bank when A) there’s no reason to believe Henderson knows where it is, and B) it’s much smarter to lay low for a while and keep Evelyn and the kid safe while Audrey and Chloe work on getting help from Daddy Devane. Instead, he leaves a wounded woman and a terrified kid alone and defenseless at a motel. Couldn’t he at least have told the little girl, “If anything bad happens, call this chick named Audrey at 555-WEEP, because if you call anyone else, inlcuding 911, the Bad Man will come and get you again”? (He might have also added, “And it will only take him about two minutes to get here, somehow!”)
Then, instead of Jack just knocking on the bank dude’s door, saying he’s a federal agent, and asking for help, he does a full-on home invasion and threatens to pop the guy’s wife, which turns out to be completely unnecessary, since Wayne was right and the guy would have helped them anyway. (You get the feeling Wayne was thinking, “Great, I’m teamed up with a psychopath.”)
Finally, he figures the only way to escape the situation in the bank is to call the LAPD and initiate a blazing gun battle in which several innocent cops will surely bite it, all in hopes that maybe, possibly, by some slim chance this will buy them about three seconds to run out the front door? And then, when this actually works, he inexplicably starts shooting, draws fire, and gets the bank guy killed anyway.
So, in just one hour, Jack’s valiant attempts to Save The Country have most likely cost the lives of Evelyn, her daughter, the bank dude, and several cops. And we can probably assume Mrs. Bank Dude will starve to death, since she’s still tied up at the house and Jack is about as likely to remember that as he is to remember Behrooz from last season.
I tell ya, I love the show, but sometimes I don’t know why . . . :rolleyes:
Ooops, you’re right – I’d forgotten about Stanton. There was indeed involvement by some govt officials then, too.
I agree it feels more tenuous, although it’s probably the only way to explain it now that they’ve gone the “Logan is behind it” route. I think this is one of those “Nina” things – they hadn’t decided who to make the BIG bad guy for Act 2 when things started. I’m guessing they were already thinking maybe making it the Veep, then decided to go all out and make it the Prez. (Just a guess…)
Really, people, can’t we come up with a better nickname for this guy? I propose Mithter Moth Man.
Like it matters anymore.
Tie it to the grill of the car, and cover their car with red paint. That’s got people through worse roadblocks than they’re likely to see…
Sure, but what about the henchpersons vehicles?
Hey, and what about putting out an APB on Evelyn’s car then? Jack knew he took off in it…Just because you can’t find him on satellite dosen’t mean that he became invisible. Hell, they found Audrey in like 10 minutes with the satellite anyway.
Anyone think that this is damned late in the day for the President to start worrying about recordings? If the terrorists had had the brains to tape their phone conversation with him earlier in the day, they could have literally gotten * carte blanche * to do anything they wanted.
As in, “Hi. Unless you open the doors to Fort Knox for us, we’re going to publish this tape of you agreeing to give us the route for the President of Russia’s limo.”
Now * that * would be one embarassing tape to make public.
Now THAT’s thinkin’, Bauer-style. Wonder why Jack didn’t think of it…
Well, I think that would have been based on the planted video “evidence” from the first episode – of Jack presumably being caught by a security camera in the building across from where David Palmer was killed. The video “evidence” was the part that would supposedly prove he was alive.
I think those come in the new Monopoly: Terrorist Edition board games…
Speaking of which ( 
), why the hell didn’t anyone tell me that 10.5: Apocalypse, starring Carlos Bernard, was on last month?!
:smack: Forgot about that.
Still seems like a rather more complex plan than absolutely necessary.
Bigtime. I actually thought of using it as either a trap or diversion myself.
Or, instead of leaving HotMommy there to bleed out while her daughter watches, perhaps Jack could have just called 911 with, you know, a fake name?
Naaaah.
-Joe
You did watch season four, correct?
Well, since LA is locked down, Evelyn Martin or no Evelyn Martin, any gunshot wound not inflicted by the army (and therefore probably not reported to 911) is going to be very suspicious to Logan’s crew.