Especially if you don’t try to make a plea deal and insist on a trial. If these guys were half as sorry as they say they are, they could have negotiate a much better deal (and cooperated with the investigation). They rolled the dice and they did not win. That’s one reason they’re getting hammered. The other reason is that they tried to pull off a coup.
Right you are.
I’m very pleased to see the proverbial book being thrown at them.
I have a feeling that they took a page from Trump’s playbook: do everything you can to delay. If a plea deal can be resolved fairly quickly, and a trial delays everything, then they opted for trials.
Of course, that idea backfired, especially for Tarrio. At 22 years, such a sentence seems to me to illustrate the sentencing principles of “denunciation,” and certainly, “deterrence.”
The higher up the food chain we get, the longer the sentences get. Good. I will continue to hope that this follows to the ringleader.
Enjoy prison, fuckwit.
So he and Rudy average out to being a social drinker?
So he’ll be about 60 if he serves his full sentence. I sure hope all of this really is a deterrent to people who are thinking about doing this sort of shit. Dying or a long prison sentence for a lost cause is a waste of a life. Of course there’s the whole martyrdom thing, but I don’t think that’s in play here. America is safer with these idiots behind bars.
The average U.S. president has been charged with two felonies.
I’m pretty sure that would average out to the town drunk.
What’s the matter, Tarrio? Now you don’t talk so loud. Now you don’t seem so proud.
I think he deserves every day of this sentence and then some. But if he gets this, then DJT and his stooge Simon Bar Sinister, I mean Rudy should get life.
Let’s not forget that Federal prisoners are eligible for parole when 1/3 time is served and are routinely released at the 2/3 interval. I think. Legal eagles can clarify this.
Pardon has greater probability. I hope Presidential candidates are asked whether they would pardon Jan 6 gangbangers, and I hope attack ad artists broadcast the consequences of leniency.
I’m no legal eagle but I’m pretty sure it’s the opposite, where I think I’ve seen posted that the minimum time served is 85% of your sentence. Google claims that parole was abolished for federal prisoners in the 80s. It further elaborates that you can get 54 days off your sentence per year for good behavior, which works out to just under 15%.
Mommas, don’t let your babies grow up to be Proud Boys.
I think you’re correct. And in a great bit of irony, Parole was eliminated in 1984 via the Comprehensive Crime Control Act of 1984, which was sponsored by Strom Thurmond (R-SC) in the Senate and by Hamilton Fish IV (R-NY) in the House, and signed into law by Ronald Reagan.
The proud boys have the Republicans to thank for the elimination of parole.
All of these people (including Trump) are whining about stuff that Republicans put in place to punish black people. I have no bloody sympathy for any of them.
Who knew the leopards would eat their faces, too?
I mis-googled “Federal parole guidelines” which weirdly got me numbers like 1/3 and 2/3s. Today’s googling makes me think they were accurate, except they only apple to people convicted before Nov 1, 1987. ::Headsmack::
Families Against Mandatory Minimums have a number of helpful FAQs on the subject: time off for good behavior is indeed capped at 15% of the sentence. So 22*.85= 18.7 years.
Old parole system:
Good time credit, more than you want to know:
tl;dr The rounding in the formulas is unfavorable to the inmate, by perhaps 7 days.
The Proud Boys recently sentenced were all offered (and rejected) plea deals which had sentences significantly lower than the ones they received:
That seems pretty stupid to me. Am I missing something?
The plea deals were offered before trial, they all rejected them and, therefore, received longer sentences than they would have received had they plead.
That’s what it sounded like to me. These guys are really stupid, aren’t they?