7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol

I doubt it, he has been as reprehensible as this for a long old time - more like the drug of power has completely removed any vestigies of personal barriers he might have ever had

They are “Proud Boys”, not bright boys.

Just when I thought Graham couldn’t get more craven, he did this.

Yes, he’s saying that Capitol security was Pelosi’s responsibility.

This is the reset. Every now and then, they’ll back Trump over something so outrageous that they look back over their shoulders and gauge the distance to the top of the rabbit hole, consider backing out for a few minutes - then they regain their equilibrium, do that toxic right wing prayer thing to convince themselves that doubts about Trump are the work of the devil and they decide to push forward.

I like the way the Daily KOS put it. And I almost did a Danny Thomas spit-take when I read it with a mouthful of coffee this morning:

On the evening of January 6, in the aftermath of the Capitol riots, Donald Trump’s fave toady, Lindsey Graham, said this: “All I can say is, count me out. Enough is enough. … It is over.”

To me that sounded like this unabashed lickspittle was giving up either the lick or the spittle or both.

That was 11 days ago, which is apparently the maximum amount of time Graham can live outside of Donald Trump’s rectum sans life support before the “do not resuscitate” order kicks in. Because this morning on Fox News, he was dry-humping Trump’s evaporating ghost like it was still the good ol’ days.

You watch Fox news for hours a day, you listen to conservative talk radio, ditto, and you read/listen to trump. You become brainwashed.

Is it paranoid when the FBI is actually watching you?

As they say, everyone is the hero in their own story. With the exception of a small number of self-aware sociopaths, people generally like to think of themselves as being good. If they do something extreme, it’s either because they just had to or they rationalize it away as not really being that extreme at all.

Most of these folks are just sad, deluded (including self-deluded as well as brain-washed), Conspiracy Theory-addled idiots. Some of the more functional of them are also probably genuinely nice, generous, loving people in different contexts. I once had a co-worker who flat-out nuts, prone to going off on screaming rants over minor or even wholly invented paranoid nonsense. But he was also a big-hearted guy who’d give you shirt off as back and frequently volunteered to help people with hard and quite skilled labor without a moment’s hesitation.

Doesn’t make them any less dangerous unfortunately and you have to pragmatic about that. But I feel some sympathy for the otherwise decent people trapped in the web of their own dysfunctions.

No, it’s paranoia when you’re being watched for no legitimate reason; he was just too fucking stupid to believe in something called consequences.

They’ll probably be removed from the Guard as well. I’m guessing they likely didn’t report their ties on their security forms.

Rand Paul thinks that forcing a vote to convict Trump on impeachment will split the GOP. [Yes, and?]

I haven’t seen too much about Rep. Lauren Boebert (Q-Anon conspiracy theorist) here although she’s all over the headlines. Supposedly, she told the rioters where Nancy Pelosi was during the riot. The latest is that one of her donors is asking for his donation back.

It would be more consequential in senate races; many House districts will continue to be as ‘Trumpy’ as they’ve ever been. It’s not going to be an issue in Alabama, but potentially one in states like Ohio, PA, MI, WI, and others.

Perhaps, but if they convict him, there’s a possibility that more money will dry up and that will affect who will be willing to run.

Already 20 of 30 of the biggest corporate donors have turned against the election deniers. If Trump is convicted, there might be more to follow. That list is very interesting.

It’s interesting to note that they weren’t cut until after the riot, though.

You could argue that there wasn’t an opportunity to show their cards until then, but that’s bullshit. A lot of them had already given pretty clear indications how they’d vote before hand, just like many twitter and FB users flagrantly violated the rules before the insurrection.

It’s a case of donors realizing that their own fingerprints are on this mess until they take some action. I just wonder if this will still be in our consciousness 6 or 12 months from now.

I also wonder, and have wondered this for a while now, if these repercussions have less to do with the insurrection and more to do with just the fact that Trump is now out and lost power. So now it’s easier to cut out the Trump party which is maybe what they’ve wanted to do for a while. The insurrection just gave them some good cover to do it.

in 6 or 12 months, it will depend on whether anyone else rises to take over the populist mantle on the right. It might be hard for Trump to do without any platform to spread his message.

I suspect this is the sort of thing politicians like Rand Paul secretly hope for. The smaller the pond, the bigger bottom feeders like Rand feel.

For some reason, I read your post in my head in hbomberguy’s voice, from this video:

(the relevant part is about 4:10, but the link above starts earlier for context)

Whatever one thinks of Boebert (she’s a scumbag) I have zero sympathy for anyone who wants a donation back. I cannot fathom the stupidity of that. The point of the donation is to help the candidate get elected. Boebert was elected. He got precisely what he paid for. The money is almost certainly spent; it’s not like the Boebert campaign can go to the company that printed the T-shirts and ask for that money back. If you find your donations were sent to what turned out to be disagreeable candidates, take the L and do your homework next time.

Do they have to pay it back? I didn’t know refunds were a thing.