Ahsoka (trailer in OP, spoilers as series airs)

Knowing nothing about any of these characters prior to the show, here are my thoughts:

  • I believe the Republic / Rebellion hands out the title “General” the same way investment banks hand out the “vice president” title. That is to say it’s basically a lower level of management they give to people in their 20s/30s to make them seem important. Which is why you’ve never seen generals Solo, Calrissian, or Hera with a command larger than a single ship or company of soldiers. “Admiral” is really when you “make partner” in the Alliance.

  • Ezra reminded me of Berkeley from Zombieland 2

  • Sabine was not convincing as a Jedi OR a Mandalorian.

Story-wise I agree with pretty much everything you said. Instead of making this “Rebels: The Live Action Series” they could have explored Ahsoka’s character a bit more. I like Star Wars as much as the next guy, but I shouldn’t have to watch all these series just to support the story.

That kind of worked for Boba Fett because Fett never really DID anything, other than stand around looking cool as a bounty hunter. Except then Mando took all the cool Mandalorean bounty hunter shit leaving Boba Fett to became a sort of town councilman on Tatooine.

  1. That wasn’t how she behaved in Mando or Boba. So this doesn’t hold up.
  2. Nothing in the show actually demonstrated this supposed dichotomy. The only thing that really changed was her willingness to train Sabine following the WbW.

Kid and I discuss the failings of this like every day. And for us we just (like literally just now) decided this show tried to be too many things at once and therefore didn’t succeed fully at any one of them. Too many Rebels in a show about Ahsoka, too few Rebels if that’s what it really was (Zeb, Callus, Hondo, Rex, the other droid I think of as Marvin-esque).

Instead of being a cash grab, it was a mythology grab, bringing up sad and depressing and gutting events and people to trick me into loving it because I had strong emotions towards it.

But it wasn’t AWFUL. It just could have been better. Tighter. Another pass on the writing. I’ll watch a S2 if there is one. I just wanted to love it because Ahsoka might be my favorite SW character and it just wasn’t there.

I have to give props to the episode titles like “The Jedi, The Witch,and the Warlord” :wink:
Overall I found it OK – not great, but I didn’t hate it either.

Brian

All in all, I’d put the season in the middle of the pack in terms of live-action Disney+ shows. In descending order:

  1. Andor
  2. Mandalorian, Season 2.
  3. Mandalorian, Season 1.
  4. Ahsoka
  5. Obi-Wan Kenobi
  6. Mandalorian, Season 3.
  7. Book of Boba Fett

While I had some major issues with it, I’d still call it a good show. I can’t say that about the seasons beneath it on the list.

“I did a lot of unpredictable and unapproved stuff early in my career, and my master always backed me”

–You mean the one who turned into a Sith Lord and killed a bunch of children? That master? Maybe he’s not the standard we should judge by.

Finally caught up to the end of Ahsoka, we enjoyed it. This is the most thematically “Star Wars” of the Disney shows. They’ve captured the tone and pacing perfectly of the original trilogy. The characters and locales are both interesting and memorable. The story is following the classic hero’s journey, with each character at a different point in the cycle.

The Andor show was better written and acted, but it’s not as “Star Warsy” as the Ahsoka show. All the other shows are good, but not as great as these two. I’d rank them even better than Episodes 1-3 and 7-9.

I’m kind of confounded by people who liked the original trilogy but not the Ahsoka show. I read the criticisms of this show and can’t understand why anyone would care about those things. That is, the criticisms aren’t wrong, they’re just totally missing the point of the show. They sound like the complaints people made in mid 1980s about the original trilogy.

I liked Ahsoka a lot, and I would have loved it if not for the ending. A SW story has to end with either a resolution, a revelation, or both. Episodes 4 an 6 had resolutions; Episode 5 had one hell of a revelation. Season 1 of Ahsoka had neither. Like others have noted, it felt like a midseason finale, the kind you get before a 6-week break. Not the end of a season.

But again, they didn’t really show that. And that would have a been an interesting idea to build a series around: She’s one of the few who knows that Darth Vader was Anakin Skywalker, and not only that, knew him personally, grew up with him as a mentor before he turned to the dark side. Exploring that would have been very interesting. She’d have to be doubting everything she was ever taught by him, and sorting out the good from the bad would not be a trivial exercise.

They touched on this lightly as her being a Jedi trained for war, rather than trained for peace, but they didn’t really lean on that.

What I would really like to see is when Luke Skywalker meets Ahsoka for the first time, and hears stories about his parents. (And dispelled [the typical lies that Ben Kenobi loved to dish out](YouTube?
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Looks like we missed that already since they were already familiar in the Mandalorian.

I enjoyed the last episode, and the series overall. It did feel like a shorter episode, though.

It came across to me - not just the costume change, but she smiled more and was more open and warm.

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That’s where our mileage varies. The pacing was relatively plodding relative to the originals. The tone was missing both the tension and the humor too. The sense of menace that Vader evoked is not captured by this version of Thrawn. The originals of course also had chemistry between the stars which set a tone that is absent here.

Exactly.

The parts of the show that worked WERE similar to the OT worked…there just wasn’t all that many.

I believe it flows together better when you watch it in one clip. A gloomy, dreary Saturday is just right.

The music is really good and I like jacen’s green hair.

The honest trailer for Ahsoka is brutally on point. :grin:

Brilliant! That was good! Thanks for sharing!