See her in the 1998 movie “Return To Paradise.”
A relatively unknown film I often recommend to others.
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Well, what do I know? I’ve actually seen that movie. I can also now say I saw Jada Smith in a movie, although I don’t remember her in it at all. Spoiler, just in case:
IIRC, the ending is a real messed up deal. I’ll say I probably wouldn’t have done what Vince Vaughn’s character did.
If you change your mind within a couple of minutes, you can edit the list to say something innocuous, like “post deleted”. If it’s longer, you can’t. And it’s generally not the policy of this board to delete uncomfortable posts. So just apologize and move on.
I’m no EMT, but I would guess that getting oxygen anywhere near the fire would have been dangerous.
I watched Return to Paradise last night. One of Anne Heche’s first lines: “Mind if I smoke in the car?”
Ouch. Ironic in hindsight. (Really good movie, btw)
Remember, she was also in “Volcano”. And if I remember, she narrowly escaped being burned alive.
I’d forgotten how incessant and cruel the commentary was around her personal life, but this certainly reminded me…
Yeah I mentioned upgrade how difficult it can be living under the microscope of public interest / curiosity / scrutiny / ridicule. Some handle it better than others, and unfortunately those who react to this microscope in a negative manner can invite increased harassment from the tabloid press. I’m merely speaking generally, and not specifically about Anne Heche.
I hope she has found the peace that escaped her life on earth and is able to enjoy it.
I think the only thing I ever saw her in was “Six Days, Seven Nights,” which is just a silly, lighthearted rom-com, but I enjoyed it at the time it came out.
I am sorry that she had such serious demons that she couldn’t overcome. A very sad and painful way to go out. I hope the tenant can get some monetary relief also.
How on earth did she sit up on the stretcher when she was apparently critically injured and soon to slide into a coma? I don’t expect to get any detailed information about her injuries from her family, medical professionals who treated her, or authorities, just really curious about how that might work in general - being able to move around and then totally tanking like that.
Could she have had a brain injury (without necessarily a visible wound) that caused slightly delayed swelling so that at first she could still move but then lost consciousness when the swelling began?
Going from 90 mph to 0, even with airbag, seems like it could easily cause a brain injury.
it depends what kind of feed the oxygen they have is. Some are a constant stream of oxygen, some only work when the person inhales. The canisters are very heavy metal. If they could get to her, they could get her oxygen. I’m just curious if they had the chance.
Just a wild ass guess, but maybe just a half conscious reflex from her lungs trying to expel what ever she had been inhaling from the fire. A bit like if you have a bad cough and your body hunches over. She was obviously still breathing at that time.
A couple possible reasons, spoilered because it is pretty grim:
First, for a brief time after a major injury it is not unheard of for someone to continue functioning for a short time, an hour maybe two. For a truly gruesome example: there have been people literally cut in half who remain conscious, coherent, and able to move their upper body for a time afterward. That is, of course, a fatal condition with major, major organs destroyed and yet there can be a period of time before the person actually dies (obviously, there would have to be something keeping the person from bleeding out immediately, usually a horrific crush injury that closes major blood vessels, or something on top of the person blocking the bleed out). In comparison, major burns over most of your body is not as bad (but still horrific). There’s often a period of time, even after 100% 3rd degree burns that destroy a person’s entire skin, that they can walk/talk/move before they finish expiring and I don’t think that Heche had 100% burn coverage.
Second, a LOT of the damage done by things like head injuries or burns come as the aftermath of the initial event. After a head injury, further damage is done by the injured brain swelling and/or by blood pooling in the skull with nowhere to go that winds up compressing and destroying brain tissue. With burns, blood and lymph vessels destroyed/seared shut by heat result in backups to the circulatory system, with resulting swelling that can compress other vessels shut leading to more tissue death and damage. Fluids start leaking out. Inflammation results in swelling, sometimes causing compartment syndrome in the limbs. In the lungs, fire/smoke damage lead to both leaking fluids and inflammation, essentially drowning the person in their own body fluids - but that takes time to fully develop. None of these secondary effects happen instantly, thus, it’s entirely possible for a fatally burned woman to sit up on a stretcher as she’s being loaded into an ambulance and start gesturing or talking to/arguing with the EMT’s within invoking “reflex”. She almost certainly was entirely conscious and moving under her own volition at that time. That doesn’t mean she wasn’t in agony, or delirious, or otherwise not in a normal state of mind, just that this is far from an unknown sort of thing to happen.
Thus - for a brief time after a major burn people can walk around, even run, talk, breathe, and continue to exist. This has been seen in people burned to death by the Yellowstone “thermal features”, in the White Island volcano eruption, and other horrific events. They don’t die immediately. They don’t always lose consciousness immediately. They aren’t immobilized immediately.
That’s why trauma surgeons and others speak of the “Golden Hour” - that’s the time just after a major injury when the person’s body hasn’t entirely collapsed and you have the best chance of saving their life. Past it, though, damage continues to accrue, sometimes fatally so.
And I’m sorry if that’s horrific, or causes distress to the reader, but it’s the truth.
No, it doesn’t upset me, it’s just really sad! I’m always interested in the medical aspect of things, I guess. She had so many injuries and was in the fire so long. And had just been in that shop buying a red wig and not apparently under the influence or in obvious mental distress, according to the shop owner.
The organ donation thing had another oddity. Normally when someone is severely injured, declared brain dead and organ donation is on the schedule it is done right away. The longer the organs are kept in the body the more they deteriorate. But they were still keeping her on life support the whole next day at least.
Different tissues deteriorate at different rates. Or perhaps it’s been ruled out but she’s still on life support to allow all of the family to say goodbye or some other reason. Like a lot of medical stuff, we aren’t going to be informed.
She’ll be taken off life support today as organ recipients have been identified.
I guess it’s good her organs were in good enough shape to donate.
I thought I read that she was racing around before purchasing the wig and the first accident but I can’t find anything on it. I was trying to piece together what led up to the fatal crash. Her cell phone would have transmitted her traveling coordinates. I suppose it will eventually come out in the investigation. Assuming they continue with the investigation.
About the organs, that’s definitely a good thing. My wife has has two transplants, and those are fantastic gifts for the recipients.
There is a phenomenon literally called “talk and die syndrome”. This applies to traumatic head injury rather than oxygen deprivation, I don’t know if it’s applicable in her case.
OK, found it. Prior to the fatal crash, prior to the crash at the garage, prior to the wig purchase… She was driving around the same street repeatedly at high speeds.
TMZ 8/6/22
New Vid Shows Her Speeding Earlier
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TMZ has obtained video of what we’re told shows Heche flying down a quiet back road nestled into a neighborhood in the Venice Beach area Friday … with her same blue Mini Cooper, going at just about the same dangerous speeds that landed her in the hospital.
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The person who shot this tells us this moment captured here – where Anne is zooming past at an unrecognizable velocity – was actually the third time she’d circled back on this very same street (Cabrillo Avenue). Apparently, she was going up and down and back and forth … driving wildly in each instance, so says the eyewitness who claims to have seen it all.