According to this wiki chart, he’s completed ten tasks. His current task, to get Dustin evicted is still pending.
So I guess he’s made $20,000 already.
You do realize that Jen was competing for POV, right? The winner of the show is determined by the jury.
Sure. What if the remaining players the jury has to choose a winner from have, through various competitions to that point, agreed to play for $1,000 in order to stay in the game? Think the players would have a case against the producers for the full $500,000? I think they would.
Oh, and here is how I see the situation: In Jen’s case, she had performed as agreed to for a substantial amount of time and the producers changed the terms of the contract in their favor exactly when Jen was in a weak position to negotiate.
Further, they were the ones who were able to put Jen in a weak position to negotiate. (BTW, hi Dag, I miss poker).
No, I don’t. The keyword is “agreed”.
I don’t understand what you think she agreed to “perform”? If it’s like most games, what she did was agree to play by the game’s rules. In the POV, which was much like the one the year before, she way overbid her hand. And then following that, she was not the least concerned about it, saying repeatedly that she wasn’t “here for the money”.
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In other news, the developing alliance among Eric, Dick, Jessica, and Danielle is fascinating. I think it might confirm my suspicion that the voting pool ordered Eric to vote Justin out.
Eric’s been campaigning hard to get rid of Dustin, so yeah, I think those are his AP orders.
Right now, it looks like he might be able to pull it off. He seems to have gotten Jessica on board after a lot of lobbying.
I think it was a question of survival for Eric. Another hinky vote was going to screw him with the LNC anyway. I think he really had no choice but to realign. It will keep him safe at least until he gets nut-stabbed with another crazy directive from America to nominate Jessica or “call out” Dick or something.
Strategically speaking, it’s actually a pretty decent move. It would effectively reduce the LNC to just Amber and Jameka and only Amber can play for HOH.
The plan would really put Jessica on the spot as the tiebreaker so they’re still going to try to bring Jen on board too. Jen has no love for Dick, though.
She agreed to compete in the game for $500,000. The time commitment is substantial, and a player has to take the potential payout into consideration when deciding to play the game. Not many people would agree to be in that house for months if the prize was $10.
It’s clear that you see her agreeing to the reduced payout of her own freewill, and I see it as an agreement that she took in a weak negotiating position and to make it worse, not in her favor.
The producers now have a $250,000 incentive to have Jen win, and may influence the game to that end. It seems to be a pretty stupid thing for them to do. I see three situations:
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She wins, and sues for the full $500,000 as per the original agreement. Other players protest because had they known that the penalty wasn’t real, they all would have said they would give up $250,000.
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She wins, and takes the $250,000 without complaint. Other players sue on the grounds that the producers rigged the game, or that there is still $250,000 in prize money that is available and needs to be paid out.
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Jen loses, and she sues saying that the producers had to get her out to avoid either 1 or 2. This isn’t likely, but possible.
Edited to add: Ok, I’m beating a dead horse. I’ll stop.
That doesn’t make sense. Again, choices involve a risk ratio of loss to gain. Why would the producers risk that? Not only could they be fined in the tens or hundres of millions, but they would expose themselves to felony prosecution.
That’s exactly how I see it, too. In fact, he was alone, brooding in the hammock and giving out that famous death glare. It’s true that he has to do it, but he’s exremely pissed off about it. I bet his eyes rolled back into his brain when he saw that vote. I bet he spat obscenities, and the producers had to do multiple takes until he could nudge the corners of his mouth upward while he fumed about his strategy being screwed. “But we’ll getter done somehow, America!”
[…belly laugh…]
Right, but there’s the risk that Jen and Zach will swing (back?) over to them. I’m surprised at how great this season has turned out to be. And I gotta say that it’s all owed to Dick.
Since Eric basically knew America wanted Dustin out (because he was the choice to get nominated) and he didn’t want to vote that way, why in the world didn’t he try to convince the group to put up someone else? I don’t understand why they decided to put up one of their own when Daniele came off the block. Totally doesn’t make sense vote-wise to put one of your votes to evict Dick on the block. If they really wanted Dick out, Jen or Zach should have gone up as the pawn instead. That takes away a (possible) vote for Dick to stay. Instead they put up Dustin and left it wide open.
The way I see the votes possibly going:
Votes to evict Dick: Jameka, Amber
Votes to evict Dustin: Jen, Zach, Eric, Daniele
That said, I don’t think it’s stupid for Eric to ditch the LNC. If Dustin goes this week, he and Jessica are the strongest members left. As has been noted, Jameka can’t play for HOH and, let’s face it, Amber’s worthless (though let’s not forget her “vision” of winning a competition).
Possible spoiler ahead
Has anyone watched last night’s Big Brother After Dark? I caught the first 30 minutes or so on lunch break today and I’m a little confused. Apparently they had some special visitors yesterday? Something about a mime and a midget? WTF!?!
Won’t somebody answer me?
The only thing he has to do, I think, is vote our eviction. I say this because Chenbot has never asked him for his vote. They only chitchat about the weather and such for a few seconds.
Eric is contractually obligated to pitch the nomination chosen by AP vote. Even if that person is not put up for the first nomination round, he still has to pitch them as a veto substitution if one of the first nominees gets off the block. Plus, Dustin volunteered himself, so that made it pretty easy. Also, getting Dustin on the block was Eric’s 10th completed task, which means he collected another 10 grand just for encouraging Dustin to follow through on his own dumbass idea. In the long run, it IS just a game for money
It was pretty strange and it probably has to do with the next HOH vote. They were awakened early in the morning by a little person in a mad hatter costume who was dancing around on the furniture and repeating the same handful of quotations over again (“A snitch in time saves nine.” “Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.” “Three people can keep a secret if two of them are dead.” “Fish and houseguests stink after three days.” " There is no little enemy." I think that was it). Sometimes he would point right at one of the HG’s when he said something.
Then they went out in the backyard and there was a guy on stilts dressed like a pirate and a barbershop quartet singing “I’m just mad about Harry.” Then they went back inside and there was a cage of bunnies with playing cards on them and there were POV medals in the cage as well. There were other clues too, I think, but I can’t remember them all. The houseguests have been tripping balls about it ever since, thinking themselves into circles, paranoid about a twist. I think it’s probably just quiz material for the next HOH, though.
The rules state that he has to make a “meaningful effort” to complete every task, that he has to pitch the nominees chosen by the polls and that America essentially casts his votes. He contractually cannot refuse a task or out himself.
Ha! Thanks, that’s pretty funny stuff.
I didn’t think Eric necessarily had to try to get Dustin put up, but I guess I was wrong. I figured he could suggest it, but then also suggest other options as he has in the past. In a “devil’s advocate” sort of way or something.
Dustin insisted. He wanted it expressly so he could gloat and make a scene while Dick walked out. Things change in that house almost hourly, and practically at the drop of a hat. He asked Jessica to do this during the highpoint of Dick’s rantings, apparently not believing that a lot of things could change in three days. Truly truly stupid.
Oops, sorry, Dio. Didn’t mean to step on your toes there. And thanks for the rules clarifications.
Didn’t Dustin try to backpedal on it later though, thinking maybe it wasn’t such a good idea?
He says he’s “99%” certain he won’t go home.
I guess a “meaningful effort” is subjective but they seem to be more hardcore about it when it comes to pitching block noms than the silly, non game-related, pranking tasks. There have been a couple of times when he made an initial, half-hearted attempt to pitch a nominee and the, after his next DR session, trying again with a lot more earnest. That’s what happened with Dustin. He kind of half-assed it at first but then went at pretty seriously after spending some time in the Diary Room.
I guess, they’re making money off this AP vote and they want to see their monkey do what he’s being paid to do.
They appear to take it easier on the non-game stuff, though. They didn’t push him too hard on the “incessently flatter Dick,” task, for instance.
Apparently Dustin did not study up on the statistics of how often the pawn goes home.
Also, I wanted to apologize for my use of the word “midget” upthread. It’s not a word I would normally use; the only reason I used that term was because that’s what Dustin and Jessica said. Hence the WTF.