Big Brother Live Feeds And After Dark

In an effort to answer Silver Fire’s question, I rewatched the first episode and didn’t see that. But I could have missed it. Even so, I wouldn’t equate a vague reference to “God’s plan for me” to the description given. Kail, on the other hand, was shown selecting her Bible from the bookshelf and carefully packing it while saying how important it was to her. The editing juxtaposed that with Eric sitting on his bed at home and chortling in his mousey voice about how funny it would be if he were put in the tank with a person of faith. He seemed to me to imply that he was an atheist. Those were at-home scenes intended to introduce the cast of characters, so I don’t know whether he said that before or after he was told of the AP.

Maybe it’s just because I’m a believer, but I don’t bristle with every reference I hear to God or faith. Sometimes it’s jarring the way people bring it up. The capitalization, for instance. Our admin Gaudere, an atheist, always made a point of capitalizing even pronouns referencing our God just as a matter of common courtesy and respect. When people — quite deliberately — won’t even capitalize “God” when it’s used as a proper name, it comes across as disrespectful of the faith as a whole. And it sends a message that they don’t differentiate between people who are like Amber and people who are like Polycarp. Just because Amber is a hypocrite, that’s no reason to ridicule the whole of Christendom.

Oh, I get it. As it turns out, I wasn’t paying attention at all that first week. That explains why I’ve never really seen Amber mention religious anything (at least, not in a way that stands out), didn’t consider Kail a “bible thumper”, and have no idea at all who Carol is.

Liberal, my non-capitalization of the word “God” was not meant to offend you. The answer to your question is that it simply did not occur to me to do so. Nothing more sinister than that, I’m afraid. And, really, don’t you think if I wanted to “ridicule the whole of Christendom” I might come up with something a little better than that?

Great stuff on After Dark, from house-wide Zach bashing to a feud between Dick and Jen.

Apparently, she hid and/or destroyed his cigarettes. (She said she bleached them.) He retaliated by hiding her clothes. (In the locked HOH room.) She claimed that BB told her she could destroy cigarettes, but the rule is that you can hide things but you can’t destroy anything. As a result, BB returned all Dick’s cigarettes and then some. But Jen’s clothes are still hidden. And she’s wailing with lamentations.

Also, she’s on the block. And Dick is giving her the treatment.

Something interesting from the night before, too. The house celebrated Daniele’s birthday and she received cards from home. There was nothing from her boyfriend, and Daniele proceeded to mope around. Dick asked Jessica to talk to her about it, and Jessica told Eric. He took it upon himself to talk to Daniele about the difficulties of being in the house with an SO at home. He told her that after they leave the house, they’ll have to call each other from Kansas and Minnesota because their SOs probably won’t take them back.

Wow!

I’m sharing this as I watch. Jen is sitting outside near Jameka, Eric, Jessica, and Zach, who’s just come out of the shower. Apparently, Amber’s gone with Daniele on the excursion she won in veto comp. Anyway, Dick comes out and razzes her a bit and then lights a cigarette, sits beside her, and blows smoke in her face.

She reacts violently! She smacks at him, making physical contact. He warns her. She smacks him again. He burns her. She screams at him to stop blowing smoke in her face. He blows more. She keeps grabbing for the cigarette. He keeps warning her not to touch him.

For the first time ever, Big Brother After Dark cuts away, putting up a “Don’t Go Away” screen. Luckily, the screen they show is their director’s control panel, and since we have a large high def TV, I can still see the goings on with Jen and Dick, but in optical stereo. They are up off the seats and squaring off.

Jen is eating a turkey burger, some cottage cheese, and an apple even though she’s relegated to slop. She has almost finished them, and Big Brother hasn’t stopped her. They’re still fighting, but only verbally. Jen, who usually just lets it all slide, is participating, trying to spar with him. But she really can’t keep up. Everyone around seems extremely uncomfortable. Lordy, Dick is in rare form.

Something tells me Eric won’t like Kansas. :smiley:

I’m going to try to transcribe a portion of Dick’s rant from just after the conflagration, so you can get a sense of the sheer breadth of this. I won’t bother with many of Jen’s responses, because they can barely be heard and she’s frankly incoherent mostly because she’s crying.

Dick:

Go cry some more! Nobody gives a fuck about you, Jen. Nobody here — nobody outside — gives a flying fuck about you. They don’t give a fuck if you’re here. They don’t give a fuck if you’re gone. Everybody here is looking forward to Thursday so your fucking ass is outta here. Get the fuck outta here!

Jen:

What was your first comment?

Dick:

“Fuck you!” was my first comment. Get the fuck outta here! Nobody gives a shit about you. Take a fucking walk. Go fuck yourself. You’re out Thursday. You’re out-fucking-played! Backdoored! Fucking gone! Gone! Gone! Besides the fact that you have an apple that you’re eating, cottage cheese that you’re eating, while you’re on slop. You tried to pull some shit with my cigarettes. They gave 'em back. Ptptptptpth!

Jen:

No, I know what it was!

Dick:

Suck my cock!

Jen:

Ew.

Dick:

Yeah, and you’ll see the pictures of my balls on your nose later.

Jen:

The reason why I was crying…

Dick:

Is because you’re a stupid bitch who can’t get her way, throwing a little tantrum because you want attention. Attention. Attention. Attention. Me me me me me me me. Stupid bitch. Go cry somewhere else. Go talk to somebody who gives a flying fuck. It’s not me. Your nose, there’s snot running down it just like the little bitch that you are. Get the fuck outta here, and go to the diary room. They got the psych waiting for you.

[…silence…]

Jen:

I’d just like to comment again that I’m not crying because of you.

Dick:

Everyone is really paying attention […they have spread out and are looking away…] because no one gives a flying fuck.

Jen:

I’m talking to you.

Dick:

I don’t give a fuck either. I care more about the pile of shit I step in than I care about you. Walk the fuck outta here. You are on the bottom fucking rung when it comes to fucking popularity in this place. Daniele probably smoked it with the bunny suit, and you were like right below Kail. Get the fuck outta here! Don’t they want you in the DR!? Get the fuck outta here, you stupid little tantrum throwing cunt. […mockingly…] Ooooh! Everybody likes me here! You’re in a fucking different realm as anyone else. You’re in a fucking dreamland.

Jen:

Wait…

Dick:

People like you don’t exist. It’s only in dreams. It’s all about you. Now, it’s all about you leaving. The fucking. House. Good-fucking-bye. Don’t let the doorknob stick in your asshole when you leave, you stupid bitch. This is even happier than when I beat Dustin and stayed, watching you leave.


There were also references to her sucking Kail’s tits while they lay in bed together, and much more. The above were only snippets that I could grab. My fingers hurt now.

Wow. I’d say there are grounds to evict both of them based on the fact that she hit him and he burned her with a cigarette. Haven’t people been kicked out for hitting before?

I think a guy was kicked out for brandishing a butcher knife. But the only reason she got burned was because she was grabbing at his hand. It really was her own fault.

What’s the rule on physical assault? Dick’s dumped iced tea and blew smoke on Jen. He didn’t lay hands on her, but isn’t that still over the line?

In Season 2, Justin and Krista were making out in the kitchen, drunk, and part of Justin’s bizarre method of flirting (and that Krista didn’t mind) was to pick up a steak knife and to ask her what she would say if he put it to her throat? BB called him to the DR and ejected him.

Also from Season 2, Shannon used Hardy’s toothbrush to scrub the toilet. Since it was a health hazard, BB made her tell Hardy that his toothbrush was unusable and that it would be replaced. She lied and said it fell into the toilet.

Period, end of story.

I have a feeling that one or more people are going to beat Dick’s ass after the show, or at least try. CBS better have some good security at the wrap-up show. If I were Jen’s or Amber’s or Jameka’s husband, son, brother, or dad, I probably wouldn’t mind enduring the consequences of pushing my fist through his teeth.

Okay, here’s the verdict. Jen has been given a provisional penalty nomination. If somehow she manages to stay this week (apparently not likely) she will automatically be nominated next week and will not be able to come off the block even by a veto.

Well. The dust has settled somewhat. Dick and Eric are outside bashing Jen. Jessica is beside Eric staring off into space. Jameka is eating her slop and twirling a braid. Zach is in the diary room. Jen is sitting in the kitchen brooding while she eats a cucumber. Unpeeled. At this point, I think she should just go to the diary room, push the red button, and DOR.

I’ve almost lost track, and there’s some conflicting conversations. Hopefully, Dio will clear some things up. But as it stands now, as I understand it, Jen has lost her stipend and will not be on the jury.

from what I read, Jen threatened to leave sequester and forfit any stipend… she has been reading a “BB Book of Rules” and believes that America would then vote in her place…

I haven’t seen anything today. so if Jen has DOR’ed, that’s news to me.

To summarize what happened last night, though:

Jen destroyed several cartons of Dick’s cigarettes, tearing open the packs an pouring bleach on them (this is after backdoored onto the block by Dani and after another day of low key abuse by Dick). She then went to the DR and tried to DOR. While she was in there, Dick found out aabout the smokes and went berserk. He grabbed all of Jen’s clothes and took them up to the HOH room, telling her she’ll never get them back. Jen said she had specifically asked BB if she could destroy Dick’s cigarettes and BB said yes. DD replaced Dick’s cigarettes but he did not return her clothes. The rest of the house (including Jameka) joined in harrassing and beating up on Jen.

Jen then started eating a turkey burger and an apple even though she’s on slop. The rest of the house predictably reacted with almost incoherent rage at this unimaginable crime against humanity. Jen said she didn’t care becuase she’s leaving on thursday anyway. She was called back into the DR and was told that her punishment would be an automatic penalty nom for next week (assuming she stays in the house) and that she can’t veto herself.

For some reason I still don’t understand, Dick interpreted this as an attack by Jen on Jameka (something to do with how Jen knows they’ll have to keep her in the hosue now…why I have no idea) and they all started bashing her for being mean to jameka (which she wasn’t). Jen apologized to Jameka anyway for getting a penalty nom and went back to the DR to say she didn’t think it would be fair if her punishment ended up hurting Jameka (it won’t, that’s a load of shit invented by Dick…typical’s abuser’s behavior – inventing justifications for abuse, ludicrous “moral” nitpicking).

Intriguingly, a lot of the sceheming afterwards did immediately turn towards evicting Jameka since Jen is presumably an automatic nom for next week. They want to throw the HOH to Amber since they think it will be a wasted week.

That’s about all I know. I still haven’t caught up with anything today.

Oh. I forgot about the cigarette smoke in the face thing. Dick was blowing smoke in Jen’s face. She tried to smack his hand away. He burned her with the cigarette. They cut the feeds. When they came back, everybody was talking about how stupid Jen was for getting burnt by the cigarette. There was also some conversation about how crazy and unstable Jen was and how she needs a shrink. jameka was part of that converstaion and did say that Dick’s treatment of Jen had been “horrible,” but her tone wasn’t so much sympathetic as catty about Jen’s reactions.

Jen’s still there, and still eating.

It sounds like this penalty nom could actually keep Jen in the house another week. Zach and Dick were talking about getting rid of Jameka since Jen is a sure thing on the block and cannot win the veto next week. They also talked about throwing the HOH to Amber on Thursday.

No, she hasn’t DOR’d. I just said she may as well.

What I saw was a slightly different story. She said she asked the producers before getting on the show whether she could destroy cigarettes, and she said they said she could. She couldn’t have known about Dick, but frankly I don’t believe they told her that. You can’t just destroy people’s property.

Finally, anyone slapping at a hand with a lit cigarette deserves to be burned.