Any network is free to create a new Cosby show.
I absolutely do not need that image in my head.
Create a voting bloc that must be accommodated. “Hillary, we will vote for you, but Bill has to stay out.”
He can come visit in the daytime, but he has to use the restroom at the gas station down the street.
Do you not see any significant difference between upwards of forty women coming forward against a recreational media figure with no significant influence, and three women coming forward against a political figure with significant influence?
Not to accuse anyone of lying, but let’s be clear here - there’s a good reason why someone might falsely accuse Clinton of sexual assault: it’s a political bonanza, believable enough, and it actively hurts a significant candidate in the democratic political arena.
Falsely accusing Cosby? Congrats, you’ve made a rich old guy less able to ply his trade, and convinced him to go into an early retirement. Slight difference.
There sure are! The reasons are legion. But then, if one is going to vote for president, one would then have to vote for one of the other candidates. I have no faith that a Clinton presidency will even reach the low bar set by the Obama presidency, but all the other viable candidates are even worse.
Yes, three women just didn’t like Bill Clinton. You’re confusing those who had motive to hype the story with the accusers themselves. And do you apply the same motives to Anita Hill?
Bill = Keymaster and Hillary = Gatekeeper?
I’d be fine with Sanders, and I still may vote for him, but by far my biggest motivator to vote is to ensure the Republicans don’t regain the WH. Even if the OP is right about everything, Hillary (and Bill’s penis) are still far, far better than any Republican alternative, should she get the nomination.
Maybe Bill could wear a chastity belt for eight years.
Bill Cosby?
If I’m reading this right, foolsguinea is not just insulting Hillary by presuming she’s her husband’s creature despite having a substantial record of her own (for good or ill) as a Senator and Cabinet Secretary, foolsguinea is accusing anyone who’d vote for Hillary as a redpiller or self-hating woman.:rolleyes:
That’s some serious judo shit: flipping around support for a woman Presidential candidate as anti-feminist MRA bullshit. And it starts from presuming that because Hillary got her start in politics from being Bill’s wife – a proposition I won’t dispute – then nothing she accomplished or tried to accomplish as Senator or Secretary of State is hers but somehow actually Bill’s.:eek:
To use an obscure analogy, Truman managed to transcend his political beginnings in the corrupt Prendergast machine, and that was a helluva lot more relevant to Truman’s merits than Bill being a horndog is to Hillary’s.
I’m passing no judgment on those claims. I’m simply pointing out significant, relevant differences between the Cosby case and the Clinton case. The number of accusations and the value in discrediting the figure are significant differences.
It will be a minor shame if the first female president of the US is the wife of a former president. Makes the milestone sort of, well, not quite fully complete. Still, that is no reason not to vote for her. Nor is having an obsession about her husband’s pee-pee.
We don’t know that, actually, any more than we know that it’s necessary for someone to be convicted of a sex crime before people can express an opinion of that person as a sexual predator.
That said, even granting the argument that sexual predators don’t belong in the White House,* when the choice comes down to “sexual predator” or “Republican,” “sexual predator” is the least bad option.
*which I’m only doing provisionally here so as to [del]undercut[/del] address adaher’s post
Nobody has made an “Is that what kids are calling it these days?” joke in some time, and I won’t break that streak.
Billary for POTUS - Woo Hoo!! :smack:
Shouldn’t this be in the Erections forum?
Hey, not fair – Bill did not have the technology available. Just imagine what he could have done with it. Or better yet don’t.
Look, guys, it’s been decades. Bill’s pushing 80 and has had heart trouble, he’s going to be taking it easy if he makes it to 1600 again. Maybe his fun will be sending selfies of himself there to Newt Gingrich and Kenneth Starr “Still here, fellows LOL #BubbaWinsAgain”. And I would applaud every minute of it.
I agree with this, and I’d add that it’s a shame that we seem to be in this weird interval of the presidency being passed back and forth among two families. That’s genuinely appalling, and it’s to be hoped that it’s a weird spike, no some inevitable concentration of power that will hold itself together going forward.
But none of that is a reason to vote Republican.