Bill Clinton's penis a lock to move back into White House?

[Morgenstern]

@John_Mace

It will be a minor shame if the first female president of the US is the wife of a former president. Makes the milestone sort of, well, not quite fully complete. Still, that is no reason not to vote for her. Nor is having an obsession about her husband’s pee-pee.

That’s just plain silly. This election isn’t about a milestone and it shouldn’t be seen that way. When Hillary wins, it’s because she was the best choice, not because she was female.

[Emiliana]

Is no one else the least bit interested in our sexual gratification rule?

[Kamino_Neko]

@JRDelirious

Bill’s pushing 80

[Count_Blucher]

@Kamino_Neko

Even if that’s centimeters, I guess I have to stand back & applaud…

[foolsguinea]

@John_Bredin

If I’m reading this right, foolsguinea is not just insulting Hillary by presuming she’s her husband’s creature despite having a substantial record of her own (for good or ill) as a Senator and Cabinet Secretary, foolsguinea is accusing anyone who’d vote for Hillary as a redpiller or self-hating woman.:rolleyes:

That’s some serious judo shit: flipping around support for a woman Presidential candidate as anti-feminist MRA bullshit. And it starts from presuming that because Hillary got her start in politics from being Bill’s wife – a proposition I won’t dispute – then nothing she accomplished or tried to accomplish as Senator or Secretary of State is hers but somehow actually Bill’s.:eek:

It’s not “judo shit” at all. Merely being a woman does not make one a feminist, and merely being a feminist does not make one the best candidate for a progressive coalition. Hillary has been a very good political wife, who was able to play the feminist, and appeal to feminists, but when I compare her to other “power couple” wives, I notice that her career is barely distinguishable from the phrase, “married well, used her husband’s name, rode that as long as she could.”

To use an obscure analogy, Truman managed to transcend his political beginnings in the corrupt Prendergast machine, and that was a helluva lot more relevant to Truman’s merits than Bill being a horndog is to Hillary’s.

Clever, using Truman against me. Well played.

Seriously, though, I’m not really sure what Hillary’s great accomplishments are. She seems to represent the intersection of “feminist—sorta” and “married well.”

Ideologically, she seems to be largely consistent with both Obama and her husband, and slightly left of both on average. So, the “more of the same” candidate. I’m willing to grant that with a Democratic majority for more than one session of Congress, she could have a better record than they. I’m not willing to grant that she can get that majority, considering she was attached to both administrations and they utterly failed at it.

[Frank]

@foolsguinea

… I notice that her career is barely distinguishable from the phrase, “married well, used her husband’s name, rode that as long as she could.”

While I’m barely willing to grant that her first election to the Senate was helped due to her name, she would not have been re-elected and she would not have been such a strong candidate in 2008 and she would not have been appointed Secretary of State were it not for her own individual merits. Such as they are.

I’m not willing to grant that she can get that majority, considering she was attached to both administrations and they utterly failed at it.

Heh. I’m not willing to grant that any Democratic president can gain a majority in Congress in 2016 or 2018 or 2020. At a minimum, it’s going to take Democratic wins in state legislatures and the 2020 redistricting for that to even be possible.

As mentioned above, I’m very uncomfortable with the fact that Bush and Clinton could be the names of four of the last five presidents, but I’d rather have her than a Republican. If neither Sanders nor O’Malley can wrest the nomination from her, then I’ll vote for her. Sorry, deal with it.

[John_Mace]

@MandaJo

I agree with this, and I’d add that it’s a shame that we seem to be in this weird interval of the presidency being passed back and forth among two families. That’s genuinely appalling, and it’s to be hoped that it’s a weird spike, no some inevitable concentration of power that will hold itself together going forward.

But none of that is a reason to vote Republican.

Unfortunately, name recognition is a big plus for a candidate. I think that has a lot to do with Trump’s success. It’s kinda sad to think that the best candidate the Democrats could come up with just happens to be the wife of an ex-president. But yeah, in a year with the clown bus as the alternative, it’s certainly not going to change the way I vote.

[MindsEye_Watering]

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@foolsguinea

So, the “more of the same” candidate.

I, for one, am hoping for and will be quite happy with more of the same.

[Lucas_Jackson]

@John_Mace

Unfortunately, name recognition is a big plus for a candidate. I think that has a lot to do with Trump’s success. It’s kinda sad to think that the best candidate the Democrats could come up with just happens to be the wife of an ex-president. But yeah, in a year with the clown bus as the alternative, it’s certainly not going to change the way I vote.

There will be no asterisk attached to Hillary’s name should she win. She is where she is at due to performance.

Do you feel there is an asterisk beside GWB’s presidency strictly because of his name?

[dropzone]

@MindsEye_Watering

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I, for one, am hoping for and will be quite happy with more of the same.

Me, too. Bubba has his flaws, but he was a hell of a president. As I get to know his helpmeet it becomes obvious that the boy chose extremely well, and i assume she was deeply involved all along. He may be a horndog, but he ain’t dumb.

[D_Odds]

@Morgenstern

When Hillary wins, it’s because she was the best choice, not because she was female.

I’d say the least bad choice. Hell, Dukakis could have won against this crop of candidates.

[John_Mace]

@White SIFL

There will be no asterisk attached to Hillary’s name should she win. She is where she is at due to performance.

Do you feel there is an asterisk beside GWB’s presidency strictly because of his name?

GWB wouldn’t have been elected dog catcher without his name. But since he isn’t seen as the “first” anything, it’s not a relevant comparison.

[madmonk28]

@foolsguinea

So, we can agree that Hillary is a lock, yes? So that means Bill Clinton and his notorious penis can finally move back into the White House?

Is this a vindication of the sort of entitled male culture that, on meeting a new woman of moderate sexiness, simply drops trousers and says, “Kiss it!”?

Are you relieved? Excited? Hot and/or bothered? Dare I suggest, dismayed?

Over 12,000 posts and I assumed it was going to be a December '15 join date. Never heard of you, hope, to never read another one of your posts.

[Lucas_Jackson]

@dropzone

Me, too. Bubba has his flaws, but he was a hell of a president. As I get to know his helpmeet it becomes obvious that the boy chose extremely well, and i assume she was deeply involved all along. He may be a horndog, but he ain’t dumb.

Right there with you. Extremely good president. I’ve never understood the obsession over his penis. When I hire someone to do a job, I only care how they do that job not where they put their pee-pee.

[GrumpyBunny]

@foolsguinea

… it’s all about getting Bill back in.

Well, that’s an unfortunate sentence for this topic.

@gigi

Shouldn’t this be in the Erections forum?

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[MindsEye_Watering]

@dropzone

Me, too. Bubba has his flaws, but he was a hell of a president. As I get to know his helpmeet it becomes obvious that the boy chose extremely well, and i assume she was deeply involved all along. He may be a horndog, but he ain’t dumb.

Not just Bubba, but President Obama, as well. President Obama hasn’t been nearly as Progressive as I would like, but he has clearly been a fine president, and successfully shepherded America through some potentially disastrous times.

[coremelt]

This thread has turned me into a Trump supporter. I’m voting for Melania Trumps Pubic Mound 2016 for the role of “First Companion Genitals”.

[Subterraneanus]

I don’t like HRC, but watching her enemies’ heads explode when she becomes president is going to be loads of fun.

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[Count_Blucher]

@Subterraneanus

I don’t like HRC, but watching her enemies’ heads explode when she becomes president is going to be loads of fun.

pop

Just one…? I’m hoping for explosions which will rival the ending of “Kingsmen”.

[Kent_Clark]

@foolsguinea

No, I think we can all agree that it’s far more rational and appropriate that a woman whose entire political career was as an appendage of her husband’s notoriety (as distinguished from his penis’s notoriety, just to be clear) should be elected to his same office only because said husband “cheated on her.” The poor thing is owed that much, don’t you think?

I mean, it’s not like she knew and didn’t care! Or like he ran around like a young billy goat with her knowledge and assent! I mean, who would think, let alone suggest, that she had any idea?

No, clearly, no one has ever deserved that Oval Office chair more than poor, poor Mrs. Clinton, whose husband just couldn’t stop embarrassing her. It’s only fair.

Gee, it sure sounds like you think Hillary should be disqualified because Bill cheated.

Unlike the Republican front-runner, whose three wives combined aren’t as old as he is.