If his supporters don’t give a crap about 4 more years of Trump then his supporters were demonized for good reason.
Good luck.
But if they are butthurt because democracy hurt their feewings, I don’t know how much progress is possible.
I’m still trying to figure out how this was an unfair process. Last time around I agree with you. The DNC conspired to bring down Bernie. Democratic operators fed Hillary debate questions. it was unfair.
But this time around? I don’t see it.
Bernie is not going to run a spoiler campaign. That is a big difference.
Biden does better than Bernie against Trump in every swing state except Wisconsin, where he holds a 1% lead over Biden.
Biden does better than Bernie nationally.
Biden does better than Bernie among Democrats.
Biden does better than Bernie among Moderates.
In what way is Bernie a better candidate.
You know, that’s only been cited like a hundred times.
I really wish Biden would shut up about gun control. I cringe every time I hear him advocating for greater restrictions on guns seemingly at every opportunity. The Democratic platform should be as big of a “tent” as possible right now and that undermines it.
All Russians and they can and will do that to anybody.
What about “Bernie Bros?”
Those numbers only swung that way recently since Biden became the front runner.
If Sanders was the front runner you’d see the same for him.
The person in the lead gets a bump. Nothing new about that.
Biden is a shit candidate. Trump will have all sorts of things to run him over with in the general.
He became the front runner because more people voted for him. It’s like we’re in a vicious cycle.
So, what you are doing is agreeing that the Kremlin attacked Hillary, but somehow doubting that Sanders supporters sent on any of those memes and lies? Oh come on now. :rolleyes:
Good job not answering my question.
Seems you’ve got nothing but some feels.
I’m not surprised because there is nothing there and you know it. If there was you’d be landing all sorts of proof on my head. Instead you are evading.
The Russians just wanted to stir the pot and cause dissent and succeeded (you are proof it worked…you are the rube Russia was looking for). There is no way the Russians actually preferred Sanders over Clinton. Russia is not a socialist state anymore…far from it. Sanders would be anathema to the current Russian regime.
Sanders as president of Russia would be anathema to the current Russian regime. Sanders as president of America would suit them just fine.
I’ve been saying this since the 1990s.
There is no reason to deliberately shave away voters with an anti-gun stance.
Gun control is an electoral loser. I can’t think of many pro-gun control voters who would vote Republican if we decided to back burner that issue until we got a few more justices on the court. Because right now, the court may be taking care of the gun control issue for us permanently no matter who gets elected then abortion and civil rights will be on the bubble if we don’t get to choose RBG’s successor.
Poor response to the pandemic, and the stock market crash would seem to reduce Trump’s chances, but betting markets still show the race as almost a toss-up. To imagine that Trump supporters will react to GOP malice and incompetence ignores how utterly unable to apply cognitive skills these voters are. Normally, the D’s would get a big publicity boost from the Convention, but that will be missed.
And don’t forget that the GOP are cheaters. The pandemic will give them all sorts of new excuses to suppress votes, or litigate.
Arizona, Florida, Ohio are controlled by the GOP. You can kiss those “swing states” good-bye. Three key Rust-Belt swing states — Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania — (as well as No. Carolina) have GOP Legislatures but Democratic Governors. In those states the GOP will block any pro-voter legislation. And I would not be surprised to see Federal authorities intercede with measures, allegedly virus related, to suppress turn-out in Blue-voting districts.
The moment is supremely critical, but the chance is (at best) Fifty-fifty. A coin toss. Wow.
Just watched Biden speak for around 20 minutes. Spoke on three themes : Trump’s handling of Covid-19 and the lack of action or seriousness from the top while the warnings were in January. The need for greater pace on testing (comparing us with South Korea), medical equipment and how in a war like situation the president must use the full force of the federal government to help the doctors and nurses on the front lines. The third theme was coinciding with the 10th anniversary of Obama signing into law the ACA and how in recent reports there is a strong indication that Trump wants the case soon to be heard in court to terminate the program. Biden naturally spoke about the need to protect and build on the ACA to provide more healthcare to people not take it away.
A solid address … but as I said in another thread there is no point in having daily addresses. He doesn’t hold office and therefore a speech like this which appears good on the surface will lose effect if all he does is repeat the same themes over and over.
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[li]15 percent of Bernie voters say they are going to vote for Trump this November;[/li][li]Biden trails Trump by 29 percent in terms of voters who are “very enthusiastic for their candidate”;[/li][li]Four years ago, only 32 percent of Hillary voters said they were “very enthusiastic” for her; Biden is currently even worse, at 24 percent.[/li][li]Trump and Biden are virtually tied in terms of “who would handle the coronavirus pandemic better?” (45 to 43 percent,) although that is likely to worsen for Trump as the pandemic worsens in the USA.[/li][li]The mere 24 percent of “very enthusiastic” for Biden is the lowest that a Democratic candidate has ever gotten in twenty years of ABC/WaPo polling.[/li][/ul]
I’m surprised the very enthused number is 24%, thought it would be lower. Maybe most of that 24% are family and friends of his.
Biden’s the one who generated more turn out in most of the primaries. The numbers don’t lie.
Nice snarky comment. Thanks for making it personal. And, yeah - I DO find fault with the majority of the voters. After all, they’re the same idiots who picked the VERY polarizing H.R.C. last time who couldn’t beat arguably THE most odious candidate for Prez in U.S. history in the general election. So I think I’m quite justified in blaming the voters and I don’t really care if you (or anybody else, for that matter) are with me on that, or not.
Pffft. The clowns on this Board assured me three years ago that Trump could not win. Now I’m supposed to believe you guys when you say Biden can’t win? He’s gonna win all right, and win big. Mark my words.