Can Biden beat Trump?

Even he doesn’t listen to his own bullshit. Stay with illegal immigration. Is there a wall? Have there been mass deportations? Have Dreamers been deported?

All Trump has done is basically what every other president has done, but tightened a few policies here or there. All within the political mainstream. If a voter is looking at that, he or she sees Trump’s immigration policy as most in line with their views. Certainly not the sanctuary city/abolish ICE platform that the Dems have only adopted because of Trump?

Who again is getting trolled?

Once again, more slowly now… Trump voters.

I really think how the Coronavirus (and subsequently, the economy) plays out is going to be the difference between Trump winning or losing. If it’s mostly settled down by November (which I have serious doubts about), I think Trump will likely win.

You’ve not been paying attention.

Just repeating it doesn’t support your position. Do you have any substance to add?

How are we being trolled? We get a Republican in office who does Republican things down the line, Supreme Court justices and the like, and Trump has trolled you guys so bad that you were close to nominating a socialist.

More to the point of the thread, Trump has also made Biden think that his key to winning is being a tough guy like Trump. It’s not working:

You don’t respond to a voter with a legitimate concern that he is “full of shit” that you are “going to go out and slap [him] in the face” and that he is a “horse’s ass.” Did the voter insult Biden’s family?

Nope, just worried that Joe will take his AR-15 away, which Joe, on his own website says he will do.

https://joebiden.com/gunsafety/

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The infatuation ignorant people have with “conspiracies” is misplaced.
The “Deep State”? Somebody sure forgot to tell James Comey he was part of the Deep State when he tossed the 2016 election to Trump.
The DNC? Get back to us when you have evidence those people can even tie their own shoelaces.

If these secret cabals had even one-tenth the power that conspiracy theorists think they have, the world might be a much better place! :stuck_out_tongue:

By November, CV-19 will be a distant memory and Trump will be doing victory laps because the stock market will have recovered some. I hope whatever investigations are being conducted by NY southern district and the various house committees start producing results that expose Trump’s, corrupt schemes, financials and taxes. This isn’t over by a long shot.

If the needle hasn’t moved by any non-kitchen-table issues by now, they never will. People of all stripes dying and losing their jobs and money over a recession is one factor that I think could do it. I HOPE that covid-19 and any associated economic downturn is a distant memory in November, but I could easily be wrong on that one.

Listen to this recording of Trish Regan “explaining” that the markets would be doing just fine if the media weren’t conspiring to crap on Trump. Then, start some detective work on how you and she came to be separated at birth.

There’s no way Biden could win… If he gets the nomination, millions will sit home, and in the general, we’ll see all those videos (seems like every day) of Biden abusing his “supporters”, telling his female aide today to “SHUSH”… Didn’t treat Anita Hill well, either.

Joe Biden supported:

  • Iraq War
  • NAFTA
  • PNTR w China
  • Patriot act
  • TPP
  • Repeal Glass Steagall
  • War on drugs
  • Wall st bailout
  • anti-gay DOMA

He opposes:

  • legal pot
  • wealth tax
  • medicare for all
  • free college
  • canceling student debt

While Trumpers would still vote for him, even if he shot someone on 5th avenue… They seem more determined than ever, and I don’t see those #NeverTrumpers… When Trump is attacked, they defend him (when they are actually defending themselves, their ego)…

If you want to get rid of Trump, vote for Bernie.

If all of the millions of voters who are supposedly going to show up to vote for Sanders on Election Day had bothered to show up for him these last two weeks, he’d be the front runner.

Biden supporters vote for Biden. Trump supporters vote for Trump. Sanders supporters complain about how other people didn’t vote for Sanders.

What if Bernie is not on the November ballot? Just say.

Vote Joe?
Write in Bernie? (with a big red heart xoxo)
Vote Trump? (to teach those establishment dems a lesson)
Stay home?

If only his supporters would have done that in the primaries. But they didn’t. And likely, that ship has sailed.

Overheard at a Trump rally.

“I’m voting for Trump because I’m a Grammar Nazi.”
“Me too. But my grandmother died when I was young so she’s not the reason I joined.”

Yes he can beat Trump. And with his support among African-Americans, he’s the most likely candidate to be able to beat Trump.

I saw that elsewhere. I’m tempted to ask “Who the hell is Trish Regan?” as I have never heard of her before. But, in fact, I couldn’t care less about someone who comes out with something like that as if it’s a normal thought.

The very same media that gave him all the face-time and attention he needed in 2016 in order to make him “mainstream” enough to win an election he had no business being part of in the first place. Conservatives and “liberals” each have their complaints about the media, in general, but they come at it from completely different angles.

How do you figure he’s going to do that? With his cheesy smile, references to his friend “Cornpop,” and his 8 years as V.P. under our last real president?

I can’t imagine what the media would say if Bernie told a voter he’s full of shit.

Can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or not…
To beat Trump is going to require huge turnout by Democrats. Not merely more votes than Trump, like Dems did last time, but huge turnout.

Trump trolled his supporters into thinking Mexico would pay for the wall, he would provide a great healthcare plan, coal is coming back, that America would be more respected, and that he would drain the swamp.

Our troops are paying for the wall, Trump doesn’t even understand what health insurance is, coal is in its death throes, America is a laughingstock (world leaders even laugh in his face, for crying out loud), and Trump IS the swamp.

On second thought, your comment of Trump doing Republican things could be on-point if you include “lying through one’s teeth at least once an hour” as a Republican value. It is theoretically possible that we are just talking past each other.