Can Biden beat Trump?

When was the last time you argued vehemently for your potus nominee as having “great legislative skills”?

Is this a good sign at all?

I mean this is the USPE we are living through that is directly addressed to the topic of whether we are going to just pack it in and go fascist with a tv star at the helm.

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Who couldn’t be arsed to actually, you know- “vote” for him.

To the Bernie Bros I know, the issue is that, compared to Bernie, there is very little difference between Trump and Biden.

Not everyone is “ew Trump” about everything.

They, they are unbelievably stupid and out of touch. :rolleyes:

That’s like saying there was very little difference between Churchill and Hitler.

Wow, and I thought all the total morons were Trumpistas. As with hardcore Trump supporters, there’s no point in trying to convince such idiots. Ignore them.

Funny that. One could make the comparison with Bernie.

  • Populist blowhard who has created a cult of personality that only he can fix things and who will never leave him no matter what.

  • Repeats the same stump speech over and over and is very inflexible when pushed away from it (see that disastrous 60 minutes interview)

  • Has little to no support from members of congress showing an inability to build relationships and allies

  • Dodgy nepotism (Hunter Biden and Burisma can be flipped to Jane Sanders, Burlington College)

Look, Bernie if elected, will probably go down as a do-nothing president who is beaten in 2024. He promises so much that would require a Democratic-controlled Senate to pass as he cannot magically produce his programs. Can Bernie at the top of the ticket help flip red seats? If he could, where are the endorsements? That tells a lot.

People sure don’t want a potus who knows why he’s running. Vermin Supreme is probably too self aware for you.

You didn’t already say this? It was somebody else? Is this why forums are dying?

This is exactly the Bernie Bro shit that I saw 4 years ago.

Essentially, it’s white people saying “It’s too bad you blacks are voting against your own interests.”

…as if you (or Bernie) have any fucking idea what black people’s interests are.

Aside from the shrillness, the arrogance of Bernie-ism, typically coming from people who are just becoming politically aware, and oh by the way don’t vote half the fucking time, is what grinds my gears about Bernie and his shit ass campaign.

I’ve liked Senator Sanders, really and truly. I used to listen to him on the Nor-man Gold-man show when I was living in the Bay Area and, as Bay Area peeps are instinctively prone to do, had radical-ist tendencies, loved Senator Sanders.

But fuck, Bernie the candidate has pissed me off and I swear to fucking God if he costs us an election, I’ll never forgive that…bastard.

Glad you posted this. Dashed the last drop of sympathy I had for you that your candidate lost.

How zero sum. I have no idea what you are talking about.

We know, we know.

I said it before in response to a similar post and someone else said it in response to yours.

Post the same stuff, get the same response.

I understand you.

I’m not sure what he was saying. Wasn’t it righty stuff?

I have heard it twice just addressed to me.

How much stimulus do you need before you post it again? Will this do?

Lol. You can’t simultaneously describe my post as “zero sum” and say you have no idea what I’m talking about.

You said two things