You just need to get out more. Hang around more parochial school playgrounds. I have a trench coat you can borrow.
“Any other circumstances”? Well, yeah; because of the history involved in the “Jews killed Christ” bit. Of course high school kids are going to be high school kids. But that’s not what “hit [my] trigger”. It’s the particular phrase that did.
If they had only stuck with “Talmud-reading egg-salad eaters!,” all of this could have been avoided.
But you can get “worked up” enough to tell us all about how you feel. :rolleyes:
Lemme guess - you got a “Hamas, Hamas, Jews to the gas” bumper sticker on your beater.
You are 10 pounds of crap in a 5-pound bag.
Yes, I’m a Neo-Nazi as evidenced by my lack of outrage at a foolish chant made by high schools kids at a football game.
It’s all quite good fodder though, for the resident Dawkins-turned-Islam-apologist to get all high and mighty.
Zzz.
…kids are dumb.
Their administration took them in hand, required them to act like adults and apologize.
What else would you have had done?
Only because their cheerleaders are a bunch of slackers who can’t be arsed to come up with a catchy way to phrase it.
Ironically, although the occurrence of anti-Semitic incidents in Europe (or anywhere else) is indeed very troubling, your link suggests that the particular chant you quoted is in fact a sort of pseudo-anti-Semitism repurposed for football (soccer) partisanship, rather than genuine anti-Semitism:
In other words, a bunch of mostly (entirely?) non-Jewish soccer players call their team “The Jews” as an ethnic nickname (sort of like “Redskins” or “Indians” or “Braves” in US sports, or “Gypsies” in Australian cricket). Then that team’s rivals use anti-Semitic/Nazi symbolism and chants to express their antagonism. AFAICT, the whole phenomenon involves few or no actual Jews in any capacity.
It’s definitely offensive, and deeply weird, but anti-Semitism qua anti-Semitism it ain’t.
No, you just described one group of people so antisemitic as to shit on even fake Jewish people.
I mean, imagine a team called “The Blacks” and someone started calling them “niggers.” Would you think they weren’t really racist?
Hell, I’m not sure even the other side is clean. Nicknaming yourself “the Jews” doesn’t sound all that good, either.
No, based on pretty much all your posts on racial issues here, where you’re constantly arguing that you should dictate how minorities feel or act, and otherwise dismissing the legitimacy of racial issues.
It’s not just one situation. You have no sympathy for racial issues, period.
Maybe not a Neo-Nazi, but you are a bigot.
Kick them out of the game. Obviously.
I’m not sure that’s the best course of action: I wasn’t there. But that’s obviously what Monty is hinting at. And I can see a certain logic in seeing force apology as not enough. It’s the type of thing your parents made you do when you accidentally knocked someone’s stuff over. “Tell your brother than you’re sorry, Timmy.”
I would probably defer to the opinion of the head of the local NAACP, just as in this case I will defer to that of head Dutch Jewish Humanitarian Fund.
But given that I live in a country in which a major sport team’s actual name is a deeply offensive racial slur, I’m really not sure how I feel about the Ajax nickname.
I give up. Who are you talking about?
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Just for the record, there is a well-known (at least outside the USA) team called “The All-Blacks”; The New Zealand Naitonal Rugby team.
Don’t know if they have faced any racial slurs due to that, but given that they are rugby players (and among the best in the world), I wouldn’t be insulting them to their faces like that…
record added, Press On.
I’ve often wondered* what “black” refers to, there - is it actually race?
*Obviously not enough to remember to actually look it up when I got to a computer …
Hey, it gave BigT an excuse to use the N word. By the way, Jew and the N word are not analogous.
Completely black uniforms.
Intimidating as hellon the pitch, even without the haka.
I think you’ve got it backwards. The Utrecht supporters are not opposing Amsterdam Ajax (self-identified by the nickname “Jews”) because they’re anti-Semitic: rather, they’re using anti-Semitic chants to express their antagonism to Ajax.
If the Amsterdam team used the nickname “Irish” instead, the Utrecht supporters would be chanting insults about potatoes and “micks” and “bogtrotters” and so on.
What they’re determined to shit on is not Jews per se, but whatever identity happens to be associated with Amsterdam Ajax.
I could get on board with kicking them out. Probably should have been done.
I don’t think that the fact that it wasn’t done is indicative of institutional bigotry or deliberate anti-Semitism, though.