But this is a hotel environment - the term “discreet” is ingrained into the culture. “Discrete” on the other hand is more of a science/technology term - why would anyone confuse the two?
Because they’re homonyms. Just because a word is ingrained in the culture doesn’t mean they know how to spell it.
Color me confused re: discreet. What, you go to a Trump hotel to bang your mistress?
Not sure if anyone noticed this, but NBC has a show called “The Voice” that is premiering soon. :rolleyes:
Okay, I’m late to the thread. I normally don’t watch shows like this, but got suckered in. I turned off my DVR a few weeks ago and this was running in the background while I was piddling around in the room, and I got drawn in trying to figure out who was who and what they were doing - wandering around a parking lot tent show trying to buy camping supplies? Dionne was incredibly bizarre. The ladies grabbing the stack of plastic bags and the box they were displayed on. They had a head start on the shopping before the men were there, but the men were in and out again with a lot of good stuff, and the ladies were still struggling to decide how much of each item to get. Hilarious!
And I got sucked in by the antics, by the Gary show, by Mark McGrath.
So watched the latest episode. It was absolutely hilarious. First, Trump with is running for President and putting people on the spot (WTF?), then the challenges.
The men just totally screwed up from top to bottom. They couldn’t come up with a concept. Then the concept they came up with was exactly everything they were told not to do - pictures of the buildings, picture of the waiter, some stupid tie shot that was incoherent. And Meatloaf screwing up the photo shoot was priceless. 27 or so photos of the waiter guy that were identical - Holy Shit! And he didn’t even look happy or welcoming. Meatloaf was going for confident, but it came off as angry. Then they obsess over getting the spelling correct, and yet the execs can’t spell discreetly anyway. And then they overload the print ads with paragraphs of text - just what an ad should be, a reading assignment.
Top it off with a marketing meeting where they are supposed to explain their campain strategy and advertising choices, and instead they spend the time trying to sell the Trump Hotel brand to the Trump COO. Ha ha ha! The only things they had going for them was their clear enthusiasm for the Trump brand displayed during their [del]performance[/del] interview, and their clear understanding of the brand concept Trump is trying to convey. But total fail on carrying that out in the print ads they were supposed to build.
(And maybe that was part of their problem - they weren’t familiar enough with the industry to realize just what the role of the interview was.)
But if the guys screwed the pooch, the ladies nailed it in all its holes. Just remarkable in their ability to turn gold into confetti. I will admit I thought their concept wasn’t bad - they tried to show happy people doing things at the Trump hotels. But it wasn’t particularly creative - which was a primary criteria they were given - and the execution was flawed primarily because of time crunch on the photo shoots and Star’s “graphics”. They went with traditional images of a luxurious bath, a romantic dinner (engagement?), and a group of “ladies who lunch” (?). But the graphic layout was too busy, and struck the execs as if a cheap strip club flier. Okay, I didn’t see that.
So Star sends NeNe and LaToya on an errand together, because she knows those two can’t stand each other, so instead that becomes a “Come to Jesus” meeting where they interrupt their work to have a mutual bitch/cry session, then finally send them on their task. But she needs NeNe to shoot one of the critical photoshoots, and suddenly with traffic and whatnot, they are running out of daylight (physical daylight) for the two shoots that require the lighting. That’s on Star. Then Star is jumping down NeNe about the time without explaining why the time is critical, just barking at her, and NeNe is such an overreacting twit she throws a tantrum. Finally they get the photos, but nobody catches that (a) the champaigne bottle that Hope is supposedly drinking out of is not opened, and (b) the towel Hope is wearing in the bathtube is actually visible. Oops - poor attention to detail there, but really given the time pressure it is easy to see why it happened.
Then they get to their presentation, and once again they fail to grasp that they are supposed to explain and defend their campaign, and instead resort to chanting out the words. WTF?
The best part came when each team came out of their interviews thinking they had done a great job, and continued to think they were a success and had one into the boardroom, yet the execs were raking the results over the coals. To be fair to the teams, the execs were polite and smile-faced through the whole presentation and didn’t react until the teammates left, so it’s not like they were given accurate feedback on how the execs were taking their presentations. But still, it was flipping funny.
I would say the schadenfruede was interesting, but I wouldn’t understand myself and would be afraid I was misusing that word.
So the summation: “We don’t have a winner, but the loser is ____” Awesome!
Then the board room proved just what a sly conniver that Star Jones is. First she tries to make a preemptive argument to Trump not to fire anyone. He cuts her off before she can even squeeze out her supposed justification. I’m really curious what she thinks she could say - “The men were just as bad as us, so really neither team lost, so we should all get a do over”? Then she decides to throw LaToya under the bus, which is understandable, because the one at fault for this disaster was primarily Star - it was Star’s concept and Star’s heavy-handed direction of tasks, Star’s graphics, and Star’s presentation that were all wrong. But too bad Trump doesn’t carry over the philosophy of firing reasons from week to week. By the argument layed out by Mark McGrath, that precedent says that Star should be gone. But Trump didn’t bring that up, and both NeNe and LaToya should have made a stronger point about that.
Star’s choice of forcing NeNe in to the boardroom for the final three was also brilliant on her part. For all NeNe’s talk about wanting to be real and call it like it is, and for her desire not to be seen as the negative one, and her claims that she’s independent and doesn’t cowtow to Star, she let herself get manhandled into getting rid of LaToya and once again coming off as the meanie. If she had any strategic sense, she would have booted Star, confident that the team overall would do better without Star’s arrogance. But she chose the easy answer, boot LaToya (who wasn’t strong in a lot of ways, but did have moments), and now she’ll be at the mercy of Star in the coming shows. And as the previews show, next week looks like they really butt heads - and NeNe is probably going to come out the loser. Star’s just too cunning.
Anyway, I’m surprisingly hooked on the show.
You’re right, he keeps staying the damndest things, which he can get away with because he’s the one with the “you’re fired” up his sleeve. Like tonight, where he followed up NeNe’s remark about everyone being up Star’s butt with a remark about how it’s a good thing she lost all that weight. A Fat Joke! Ugh!
Interesting idea of stealing one of the men for their team. Too bad they didn’t come up with that. But no, there was nothing petty about making Trump fire someone. Ultimately it is a competition and ultimately there’s only 1 winner (right?), so it was fair to take the opportunity to force the next firing to come from the opposing team, rather than leave a person around to have to fight off later. Good strategy and I don’t think badly of her for it.
Yeah, McGrath was a poor player for that. Sure, he has integrity, but that doesn’t win him the game. I could understand him telling Trump there’s really only one player he could bring back, but he practically forced Trump to fire him. Unlike Star, who even though was responsible for every element of why they failed this last week, managed to get the firing dumped on LaToya. That’s playing the game. Despicable as a person, but that’s how to win.
I thought the pirate idea was a different way to sell suntan lotion, but you are correct that pirates have been a bit overdone lately.
Um…wow. I guess we saw all that in the previews, but I didn’t really think of the fallout that would result from it. If you want to take someone down, you need to do so covertly. You don’t blow trumpets and tell everyone in the room that your main goal isn’t to win, it’s to gun for a teammate, you’re done. This little dance session though is a little awkward - though it wouldn’t be too awful if Marlee and Hope started…nevermind.
The men - also wow. They’re down two players, and they’re stuck with a project that I can’t imagine they could know less about. And yet, the single phone call to Niki Taylor is simply mindblowing. What a power play.
And what is this bullshit with LaToya? If Trump lets her back in, he’s a pussy.
Guys have three guys, not two.
I can’t imagine Trump not bringing back LaToya. Otherwise, that footage would have been on the cutting room floor.
Correct. But for some reason I thought the women had 5 members left.
Something that’s been driving me crazy this episode is NeNe’s “motivation” that she gives everyone. It’s not “we need to do well because my cause is Domestic Violence Org X” - it’s “we need to win” and “I need this win”. It’s so…unmotivating.
NeNe isn’t the least bit interested in managing. She keeps saying she’ll blame her team for any loss. Never once considering that it might be her fault. The constant cursing is getting old too. Sure hope she goes home tonight.
She’s outstripped Busey on crazy though. He was just bizarre. She’s truly scary.
I thought she was gonna kick Star’s ass right there! She almost belly bumped her!
NBC News just cut into the Apprentice. They’re saying Osama Bin Laden is dead.
::nm::
Guys now have 3 people on their team. And LaToya.
Obama got in the last word on Trump. 
Just as they were about to say who got eliminated. Oh well. We’ll hear tomorrow.
Part of me wonders if the timing of this announcement was intentional, just to screw with him, especially considering that it’s now past 11 on the east coast, and the president still hasn’t spoken (initially he was supposed to come on at 10:30 and the networks broke into their regular broadcasts about 10:45).
This had promised to be a very interesting boardroom session so I’m a little bummed that I didn’t get to see the fireworks - even so - I’m elated we killed Bin Laden and would have turned over to that news as soon as I heard. Hopefully we’ll be able to find a place online where we can see what the women said this week.
You can see the episode at NBC.com, which I’ll probably be doing tomorrow.
So does anyone know who was fired? I figure Marlee is the only one not at risk.
My guess it is Hope.
Edit, Wiki is saying
it is Hope
Assuming the spoiler is right – and anyone who manages to watch the end of the episode, please do a blow by blow recap, eh? – I’m not surprised. Trump is all about the ratings, he’ll keep whoever he feels is most ‘interesting’ regardless of how deserving of firing they are.