“Professionally.” 
Joan’s got a bit of (grammar) Nazi in her, too.
She won $250 thousand for her charity. That’s the prize on Celebrity Apprentice.
That amount was dwarfed by the amount that Annie raised, which I hope is not going to Joan’s charity. Maybe Trump’s ego couldn’t take being showed up, so he didn’t mention his piddly prize.
I think future seasons will not raise as much, because competent people like Piers and Annie will never sign up for Trump’s show after this debacle. The motivation to compete for the final prize no longer exists if Trump is going to make up a bunch of arbitrary unmeasurable criteria. Instead, he will get a bunch of whiny drama queens who will raise only small amounts. The competition is now about who says the most outrageous shit.
p.s. I wonder if Howard Lederer is pissed that they showed his phone number on the auction form.
They know what the prize is going to be going in. It was the same when Piers won.
And Joan won this task. There were 5 clear criteria and she won 3 of them. She beat Nurse Rachet fair and square.
ETA, I don’t like the rolodex challenges anyway. What do they really prove?
Well in the promos before tonight’s show you actually saw Trump point to his left when he said you’re fired. Then in the long shot you see Joan sitting on the left, so the promos actually suggested that Joan would lose. But then tonight you never saw Trump when he said you’re fired. He was off-screen. It was devious misdirection in the promos. Obviously the promos were cuts from previous shows. Frankly I think that the deck was stacked against Annie (yeah pun intended). The winning criteria were set up to marginalize the fund raising part (which everyone expected Annie to clean up based on past performance) and emphasized the other more subjective parts. Joan was Trump’s choice from the start and probably because she’s much more connected to the show biz elite that Trump covets. Trump has all to gain and nothing to lose by choosing Joan. By choosing Joan he leaves open the door for more Hollywood celebrities and also shows that the winning strategy is to be outrageous and entertaining. When both the Donald and Ivanka referred to Joan as a “role model” that was barf-worthy unless they meant role model for a nut job.
The more I think about it, I guess Annie really did lose the prize at the end because she didn’t say the things that Trump needed to hear. This is entirely based on hindsight, but the correct thing would have been to call Joan a crazy old bat and state with conviction that she caused the Event Planner to bail. Don’t beat around the bush, just accuse Joan outright. When Joan tries to deny it, Annie could counter by pointing out that had Joan intentionally done it, it would be a smart business tactic to trip up the other team. Otherwise Joan isn’t really thinking strategically.
Then, when Trump gives Annie her last chance to speak, just ask him if he makes the final decision. He will say, of course he does. Then, Annie could say that if that’s true, then it’s not up to the producers, the viceroys, the Apprentice loser gallery, or even Kodak… he should make the decision regardless of the marks given by Kodak. So, the question is: does Donald want to be known as the person who hired a crazy person, or the better business apprentice who will ensure future seasons continue to set record-breaking amounts of cash raised?
He didn’t hire anybody. The only prize is the charity money.
So you find her ability to stay cool when being subjected to froth-specked tirades like the ones Joan produced over and over more of a sign of mental illness than said tirades? Interesting.
No, Annie’s charity gets Annie’s money. Yay Annie! It was only three times as much as the “winning” event raised. :rolleyes:
Thereby completing the logical evolution of reality TV. Sigh. (And I say this as an enormous fan of reality TV.)
Only if you weight all five of the criteria equally – and I don’t think anyone would bat an eye if Trump’s arbitrary decision had been a rational one, like “I’m going to weight ‘winning 3x as much money’ more heavily than ‘nice decorations’ and give the win to Annie.”
Yeah, that’s what I realized last night, once I’d calmed down a little – there was no way that he wouldn’t choose Joan, for exactly these social-climber reasons. In fact, it wouldn’t surprise me to learn that a producer reminded her of this when persuading her to return after storming off in the post-Melissa scene. (Which Melissa wasn’t embarrassed by? WTF?)
Trump doesn’t give a shit either way. Seriously.
She intentionally provokes such tirades through classic passive-aggressive needling. She makes these vicious insinuations and then acts all innocent when people get justifiably pissed. She’s a very sick woman.
So before I watch this 3-hour extravaganza, is it worth it? Is there good drama?
Yeah, the promos had to be cut from other shows because the actual hiring/firing was done live.
Why was it two-faced for Annie to think that Brandi was a weak player and then change her mind about Brandi, but Joan can go back and forth on Clint a number of times? And Joan never talked behind Clint’s back?
I should have known the fix was in for Joan a few weeks ago when Trump asked her in the boardroom “Who would you fire” and she refused to answer, and Trump let her slide. He NEVER lets anyone slide on that question.
I had it on DVR, and started to watch it about 1 hr 15 minutes into it. I skipped over a lot of the first two hours and I was caught up about with real time with about 20 minutes to go.
A lot of the first two is excrutiating to watch. Make sure your FF is working before attempting to watch.
YMMV.
Did anyone notice the person sitting behind Jim Cramer? I think it was a female but nevertheless (s)he was absolutely huge. Had to be over 500 lbs.
Well, it became clear several weeks ago, when you found Tom’s interruption of Scott’s confessionals charming hijinks and I found them assholish attention-seeking that you and I tend to interpret behavior very differently – guess it’s no surprise that we’d be on either side of the chasm on this one.
I had the TV on the whole time, but was also playing Scrabble – it’s certainly not worth your full attention, but there are some amusing moments.
How did Joan win the “celebrity presence” criterion? She had cheesy celebrity imitators whom Trump said were disturbing… otherwise, she had Kathy Griffith and the cast of Chicago. Annie appeared to have more big-name celebs (she beat Joan solely on Joe Frazier and Bernard Hopkins).
Who the hell is Bernard Hopkins?
They said Joan won on better celebrities, a more fun event and one other thing I don’t remember.
In my opinion, Joan deserved to win just for correcting Annie on “professionally.”
Joan invalidated the 5 criteria the second she caused the event planners to quit both teams. Annie had received confirmation earlier in the day that the chairs and tables, etc. were all handled and in place. It’s a pity Annie was too tired from a night of scrambling to point fact that out to Donald. If she did, she could have hammered home the point that this show should be about raising money for charity, which makes her the winner.
I don’t know what Joan did to piss off that designer so badly…certainly, nothing we saw was worth them quitting over. She didn’t do anything that Annie wouldn’t have done herself if she wasn’t getting what she wanted from her vendors.
One of the greatest boxers in the past 25 years.