Yeah, it was a normal Supergirl episode until Barry and Cisco showed up at the end. Apparently Supergirl’s universe is still a different one from the Arrowverse. Within the context of the four shows, at least.
Bwah?
So Zor El creates a super-virus (“Virus X”? 
) that kills all aliens. It’s even good enough to distinguish Daxamites from Kryptonians, even though they both evolved on the same planet (it would be like distinguishing Americans from Brits). But…it doesn’t hurt the most populous alien species on the planet: humans? Humans aren’t Kryptonian or even all that close. To quote Niven, it’s more likely Superman would be attracted to an ear of corn than to Lois. This was just super-dumb. And remember, the guy who’s calling this dumb is the same guy who, two(?) seasons back in Flash didn’t object to Captain Cold freezing laser beams. I didn’t catch mommy Luthor saying that they engineered it so it ignored humans (it certainly seemed to ignore Kryptonians).
Cyborg-Superman’s facial prosthetics were poorly done. It’s like he’s going for a meltal version of Phantom of the Opera’s mask: the facial bit doesn’t look like it’s part of him, it looks like he’s wearing it and it’s a copy of Cyborg (the Teen Titan)'s face.
And given that DC is really trying to promote Cyborg (the Teen Titan) as an “A-List” hero (he’s not), isn’t it a bit confusing to use the same facial design? If they made his “mask” look like the comics (it’s half a metal skull–you can see the teeth and stuff) fine. But since Cyborg is a B-Lister they’re desperately trying to promote, wouldn’t it make sense to choose to go out of your way to differentiate the two Cyborg characters?
Why aren’t they using real Supergirl baddies: Lesla Lar (one of my favorites). The Black Flame. Reactron. Whatshername: Lord Satanus’s sister. Esper-Lass. “Satan-Girl” ;).
Also, the lack of actual crossover sucked. The hype was a huge let-down. One 2-second scene during Thanksgiving and one 1 minute scene at the end aren’t even remotely a crossover. It’s a cameo appearance.
I normally really like Supergirl but this episode was just bad.
Unless the alien killing virus is what wins the day that wasn’t a crossover episode. I also really dislike relationship drama so most of this episode sucked in general I made it about half way through season 1 before giving up on Super girl and she doesn’t appear to have gotten better in season two.
Called it in the first post of the thread: Barry (and, it turned out, Cisco) only showed up at the end of the episode to recruit Kara. Although his interdimensional portals did show up to disrupt the plot a couple of times - sort of a deus extra dimensionaria. Does anyone think Kara’s alien-killing virus is going to play a role in defeating the aliens Barry and friends are going to be fighting?
So you also hate The Flash, I take it. You must also really, really hate Arrow.
Ya, I watched Arrow last season mainly to see how it tied into Flash. Besides the Barry/Iris storyline there doesn’t seem to be much relationship drama in flash or at least the drama is much lower key even when one of them is holding a secret like the killer frost storyline we don’t have to watch episodes of angst over their decision.
He *was *wearing it. In one of the fight scenes, it’s knocked off to reveal the cybernetics underneath. I guess it’s meant to make him look slightly less conspicuous when going out in public.
You’re confusing the Dominatorswith the Controllers. (Unless something’s changed in the past few years that I missed.)
The virus was designed to defeat an invasion of Krypton - I doubt Zor-El was worried about humans invading his planet, so why would he bother to design a virus to kill us.
But the virus seemed to be pretty broad-spectrum. It worked on several different alien species, so it seems likely that Zor-El simply designed it to kill “everything but Kryptonians.” There seems to be no particular reason humans ought to be immune.
I know that Superman is not going to be a regular presence on this show, and his appearance at the start of the season was a one-time thing. Still, if there was ever a time you’d want to bring Kal-El into the loop, you’d think it would be when a Kryptonian genocidal weapon had been stolen from his fortress and was about to be unleashed all over the planet he’s sworn to protect. And how did Cadmus even know that this virus existed, anyway?
So Martian Manhunter is magically cured of his turning-into-a-White-Martian problem. Boy, that sure was a plotline that went nowhere in a hurry, wasn’t it?
I’m not sure if it’s easier to design a virus to kill all non-Kryptonians or to design one that’s effective for the dozen (or hundred) non-Kryptonians that Zor-El particularly cares about, so I don’t know which way Zor-El would choose to design his virus. Since Jor-El and Zor-El both seem to think of Earth as a place that Kryptonian children should be sent in times of danger, perhaps he did have a good reason to make humans immune from the virus, though.
On the other hand, someone said something about the Medusa virus being easy to modify to attack only White Martian cells - perhaps Zor-El built Medusa to be a system that creates viruses that are guaranteed to be harmless for Kryptonians but can kill whichever non-Kryptonians you want. In that case, Mama Luthor would have been the one to set the dial for “everybody but humans” (but of course, couldn’t select Kryptonians (they’re not on the drop-down list)).
Agreed.
Cadmus may have inherited all of Lex’s intelligence on Superman, which might have included all sorts of info.
Agreed.
P.S. Regarding Fenris’s concern about a disease that can kill those from Daxam but not those from Krypton, there do seem to be significant biological differences between the two species, in spite of their apparent similarities - for example, lead will kill Mon-El, but not Kara - and Kara has heat vision, but Mon-El apparently doesn’t.
They probably determined that they couldn’t afford the CGI.
The whole CADMUS plotline turned out to be underwhelming. I thought they’d have a better use for Supergirl’s blood than just breaking into the Fortress of Solitude, like using it to clone Kara. And Lilian Luthor was simply arrested by the cops without even a good villain monologue?
Ugh. They establish that Superbowl can see through walls, yet when attacking Flash and Green Arrow, she doesn’t determine their position and misses. The writers really need to think this shit through, because I can’t be the only one this takes completely out of the show.
What? They couldn’t bring Martian Manhunter and Mon-El over too?
The World War Z reference seemed a little out there, at least to me it made no sense.
Thoughts as I watch.
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Why the hell is everyone so hysterical about Wally having powers? Barry started using them about 10 seconds after he woke up from his coma. So what’s with the drama?
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Douche-Harrison is Abra-Kadabra. I keep saying it so I can say “I toldja so”
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I completely understand that Cisco is pissed off and I think it’s good character development, but as much as I love the actor, he’s slipping over the line from “righteously pissed-off” into “petulant and a little whiny”. Diggle’s actor is putting Cisco’s actor to shame.
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The first 30 minutes were all relationship drama and “training”? Really?
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Heatwave/Supergirl is a great combo. I want Mick to go over to Kara’s earth and have a relationship with her.
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Professor Stein’s daughter: Firehawk? Also, I want to see a non-Iron Man based costume for Atom.
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Yay for Arrow’s pep-talk to Barry.
This was much more like it.
well, that was just all kinds of awesome.
That was a great crossover with plot development for both the Flash and Legion crews and I assume Arrow as well and some fun action with a story that looks like it needs 120 min to tell. I don’t get why they called the crew together immediately and let supergirl tell us they are bad asses rather then spending her episode showing them kicking some ass.
Related to my comments above. Cisco is really getting annoying with the whole brother death thing and hopefully someone bitchslaps some sense into him soon. Also I don’t get the whole Dingle being pissed that his daughter was taken thing. Barry’s responce should have been “Sure, but I gave you a son. Would you trade him for a daughter you’ve never known because you can only have one.”
So - I haven’t been watching Legends or Arrow. What happened to Snart & Rory?
Every time they showed the establishing shot of the training warehouse I really, really wanted an announcer guy saying “Meanwhile, at the Hall of Justice…”
I had to laugh at Sara reprimanding Barry for fucking with the timeline. Granted, when Barry messes about with time the repercussions seem much, much bigger than when the Legends do it. Barry changes one thing and the effects ripple all the way up to at least the near future. The Legends trash Reagan’s White House (twice!) along with numerous other fuckups throughout history and nothing substantial seems to have come of it.
Did you notice that Barry came up with a way to destroy the mind control device all by his lonesome? And by creatively using his own powers against Supergirl’s strengths, to boot. Cisco’s just pissed that Barry doesn’t need him to come up with solutions any more.