This is totally silly. **Miller ** apologizes, and still gets yelled at anyway. So that’s half the Pit thread.
The rest is for EC. And **Excaliber ** keeps calling him “creepy”. Well, yeah, some of us don’t find him creepy. I’ve never noticed, until people kept calling it to my attention, that he was any kind of one-trick pony. I find his threads interesting…sex is a sore topic in the US, and we don’t talk about it.
Besides, this is not a children’s message board. No one said we’d protect your delicate little eyes when you signed up.
All those threads you link to - none of them were actually hijacked. Some of them were asking for the very thing **EC ** provided! And **EC ** is not a poster that’s big in my awareness, I don’t think I would have ever particularly noticed him if all this hubbub hadn’t gone on.
Barring all that, I notice *this * thread has not been closed down. So of course it’s OK to keep Pitting people. I approve of the other one being closed down, though., for the same reasons the mods shut it down.
FWIW, and I know it’s not worth much, I side with those who are squicked out.
Let me make the important distinction that seems to have been missed or ignored here: It’s not EvilCaptors references to sex that bug; it’s his references to nonconsensual sex – and even more specifically, it’s references that strongly imply a gleeful, seemingly vicarious delight in nonconsensual sex.
Sure, I have certainly seen EvilCaptor post on other topics many times, especially politics. But the truth is that for me, his squickworthy comments are frequent enough – and disturbing enough – that whenever I see EvilCaptor’s screenname attached to a post, I find myself wary … almost bracing for impact. I kinda dread reading what he has to say.
I did a “Find all posts by” search on my user name, and skipped all the posts from today (skewed because of the Pit thread) and counted the number of references to bondage in the next 100 posts. There were 7. So, seven percent. I’ll give you eight because the 101st post contained a bondage reference. But this is HARDLY the tidal wave of sexual bondage content the OP alleges. I invite others to do the same if they have nothing better to do (like, maybe, the paint on the wall finished drying).
I have to say I’m on Excalibre’s side on this thing. By broadcasting his sexual fantasies (especially since they’re fantasies that have a high likelihood of causing other people discomfort) as indiscriminately and inappropriately as he does, ** Evil Captor** is demonstrating a pretty fundamental disrespect for other Dopers. That his fantasies are essentially about being sexually stimulated by acts of disrespect–that he is sexually stimulated by causing others humiliation and pain–seems to go a long way toward substantiated Excalibre’s armchair psychoanalysis.
You folks are getting bogged down in minutia here. What you really need to do is to look at this issue from an overview perspective, rather than try to figure out the exact percentage of bondage posts. The fact of the matter is that when I think about the poster Evil Captor, I associate him with bondage and badly Photoshopped images of celebrity slave girls. It should be as obvious to people that have read his stuff over the months and years as it is that I can be an asshole from time to time and am rapidly loosing any respect that I did have for the moderators.
Moreover, I too am starting to get the vibe that b]Evil Captor** from time to time uses this board to either solicit help in finding wank material or as some sort of a venue to act out scenarios. It is kind of sad and creepy.
I’m into non-con sex myself, but I understand that for many people it is a subject that really creeps them out and I try to be careful about when and where I speak of it.
I don’t put Evil Captor on ignore because I have no problem with him except for this one particular thing that pops up just once in a while. If he had actually said anything gross/sexual to me or anyone I know (like another doper), then I would have a problem with him, but I don’t. I just have a problem with how he brings up his fetish in conversations where it doesn’t really belong.
Seriously though, I tend to skip over Mr. Captor’s posts for exactly the reason complained about here - the frequent references and insinuations regarding his preferences are too much info for me.
I dunno, just because I say today is Thursday, does that mean it can’t be November?
Once more, slowly:
If you have a serious complaint against a post (for example, if you think that the thread was hijacked, let’s say, by, oh, I dunno, a reference to bondage), the hit the REPORT button. The Moderators will note whether they agree that the post was hijacked, and take action as appropriate.
If you have a serious complaint against a member (like, say, you think that someone is soliciting illegal activites), again, REPORT it to a Moderator. We’ll look into it.
If you don’t really want to file a serious complaint, but just want to rant and rave, froth a li’l at the mouth, and spew venom, then by all means, post to the Pit. Start a big ruckus. That will generally ensure that your complaint is side-tracked, buried in half a dozen other issues, derided by those who disagree with you, and the Moderators will not need to take ake your complaints seriously.
If you are trying to organize a campaign against a poster, that’s a lynch mob, and in violation of our rules.
So, just like in real life, you can complain through legitimate channels, you can stand on a street corner and scream, or you can try to organize a lynch mob.
While I’m on this, I should comment that there’s almost not topic that’s forbidden on these Message Boards, except for things that are illegal (in the U.S.) Thus, presumably, posters can ask, “Hey, I’m gonna be in Iowa City, anyone want to go drinking with me?” and that’s fine. On t’other hand, “Hey, I got a bank robbery planned but I need a getaway driver who can drive a stick shift car” … won’t be allowed.
Well, i come at this topic as someone who has about the same number of posts as Evil Captor, and who has been around these message boards for just a little bit longer.
And, in all the threads that i have run across Evil Captor—and there are plenty of them—i’ve never noticed this alleged obsession. Hell, i only found out a few months ago that Evil Captor was into all the bondage stuff. I had, until that time, thought of him mainly as someone on the political left. And that is still how i think of him, for the most part.
So i guess i find your allegation that he posts about this topic “indiscriminately and inappropriately” to be rather unfounded. I mean, look at all the links given in inkleberry’s original thread. In virtually every single case, the subject of the thread is somehow related to issues sexual. It’s not like Evil Captor is jumping into political threads, or other unrelated matters, and holding forth on bondage and other sex-related stuff. That would be inappropriate, but it’s something that i’ve never seen him do in all the threads where i’ve encountered him.
Really, given some of the pretty goddamn strange stuff that people post about on these message boards, i’m really not sure why people get all worked up about this. Here’s a bit of advice—if you see a thread that looks like it might contain sexual references that you find “icky,” then don’t read the damn thing. Surely anyone knows that opening a thread that deals with sex might expose you to practices or ideas that either fascinate or discomfit you.
Furthermore, if we start flaming a guy just because he has a penchant for posting about something that makes other people uncomfortable, we risk starting a troublesome trend.
See, that’s interesting, because i don’t. As i said above, i associate him with leftist politics. I guess it might depend which forums one hangs out in, and which threads one chooses to read.
Yeah, so EC likes bondage, so fucking what? Get the fuck over it. He’s not breaking any rules and some people even find it entertaining. Why should he be singled out when there are plenty of other fairly one-track-minded posters? I can think of at least one poster here who, IMHO, shares a bit too much about their sex life. But you know what? I don’t really give a fuck. There are also certain posters who are fixated on various politicians, political theories, gay rights, Verhoeven, their fellow drivers and Lord of the Rings to name but a few. It’s a fuckin’ melting pot, people. No need to tie yourself up in knots…heh heh.
Right. He does a lot of it in Cafe Society. Believe me, I don’t seek it out (if that’s what you’re implying). I also don’t read that many political threads, so if he’s got an active career there, I haven’t seen it. I’m certain everyone has a distorted view of what he does, or what any member does, since no one reads everything on the boards. But like choie said, it’s gotten to the point that when I see one of his posts, I think to myself, “There he goes again.” And then breathe a sigh of relief if he’s not talking about how much he’d like to see Britney Spears tie up Lucy Liu and pull out a cat-o-nine-tails.
Percentage-wise, I’m not surprised it’s a small fraction of his posts. By comparison, though, out of 365 mentions of “bondage” in the last year, he’s responsible for 60, 16.4% (excluding the current brou-ha-ha.) That’s disproportionate, given the size of the board’s membership. He’s by far the biggest talker on the subject. And it’s not like he’s starting long threads on the sociological implications of it, either.
I’m pretty linguistics-obsessed. I know that particularly I’m a common sight in threads on prescriptive grammar. Yet when I searched by own posts for “linguistics”, it was 43 total, out of somewhere around 4000. I’ve run into references to my tendency to run my mouth off about the subject anyway - having a reputation for something doesn’t mean you spend 75% of your posts on it. Probably most of us with fairly highish post counts do a lot more sort of trivial chiming in than anything else. No one’s going to have a majority of their threads devoted to one single topic.
I guess I’ve just been sort of rolling my eyes as I read his posts, getting more annoyed as time passes. It’s like he pops up out of nowhere to say, “By the way, I’m totally into bondage!” It’s mostly the same sort of annoyance as when someone comes up with a flimsy reason to remind us all that they’re gay. After enough instances, it just becomes annoying. With Evil Captor, most people ignore him, since it’s not usually relevant to the topic or particularly interesting. But I’ve noticed it for a long time. And by God, if the other Pit thread got closed, I was gonna fight the good fight once again!
Uh, mom, no one was asking you guys to step in and shut him up. I just wanted to vent a bit and see if other folks were as annoyed as I was by the constant references to his sexual fantasies. We don’t need the mods to step in and decide what’s worthy of discussion and what’s not - there’s been way too damn much of that lately as it is. Most behavioral norms are maintained by the community, not by you guys.
First of all, In the interest of full disclosure I must admit to sharing some of EC’s kinks, though I’m much more private about them than he is.
That said, I don’t really see the problem with his occaisional–and they are occaisional–posts about bondage. The fact that people are squicked out by what he says does not mean that he is intentionally trying to squick people out. There are a lot of things that squick me out. Should one of you talk about them, I wouldn’t think you were trying to squick me, I’d just think you were talking about something you found interesting that I found disturbing.
Most of EC’s posts about bondage are in Cafe Society. Some of them are in threads he started, which anyone could avoid by not opening them. Some of them are in threads which are about sexual things like “Is such and such an actress hot.” Why shouldn’t Evil be permitted to talk about that topic from his own, perhaps unusual, perspective. But the main thing is some of you are assuming that he’s deliberately trying to tweak you. I just don’t see that. Nor do I see that he’s looking for “whack material,” which he can find in plenty all over the web. I just see someone talking about something he’s interested in.
But that’s not the issue for me. The issue for me was in the original pit thread, in which the OP and several other dopers seemed to have gotten together and collected a bunch of threads in order to denounce someone for no reason other than that they think he’s weird. I don’t care if it came from the pathetic snark boards–although those cowardly shitty little boards are far more reprehensible than anything Evil Captor has ever posted IMO–I’d feel the sam way if it had been a gang of the most respected and long term dopers on this board. It’s just a bunch of people gossiping and plotting against someone they think is different and strange. That’s not even high school, that’s fucking middle school! (And I apologize to the many middle schoolers who are too mature to act like that.) Kudos to SkipMagic for stopping that vindictive gossip-fueled plot.
I’m also someone who never had a clue about Evil Captor’s hobby, and I read pretty much all the forums. And with 7,000 posts, a 50 post ‘hit count’ equals .71% of his posts. Wow. What a one-track mind!
Everyone needs to lighten up. Sex is part of human life, and sexual interests are incredibly varied. And in case people haven’t noticed, the Straight Dope is pretty ‘R’ rated. If you can’t deal with someone even mentioning that they like bondage, then maybe the internet isn’t for you. Watch TV - there are better censors.
If EC was being graphic about it, or making advances to other dopers or engaging in innuendo about them or describing what he’d like to do with them, then THAT would be offensive. But you’ve got to have a pretty damned thin skin to become uncomfortable just because someone says they like bondage.
Incidentally, I have to say that it was quite the coincidence that Evil Captor was described as ‘squicky’, because I like to shave kittens, oil them up, and rub their mewling little bodies around on my feet. Squicky is the sound that makes.