Not to link children and pets, but this is the same principle as smacking your dog on the snout if you see him shit on the carpet. If you catch him in the act, a rap on the snout is pretty effective. If you come downstairs to see a pile, you really shouldn’t smack the dog, as he will have no idea why he is being punished.
While you don’t smack the kid on the face, a spank to the butt is just as effective, if used properly.
And behind every spank must be clear justification to the child. If Joey is just sitting watching cartoons when you find his scribblings on the wall of your fancy dining room and did not see him do it, a smack is unwarranted. There is a fine line between a slap for discipline, and a slap “to show who’s boss”. One is to correct behavior, the other is being a thug.
Are you actually claiming to have witnessed many spanking techniques and styles to the extent that you can describe the methodology used by SOME parents as opposed to others?
Are you doing some sort of spanking style research that would allow you to view a spanking objectively?
I wouldn’t mind seeing some evidence as to how widespread this spanking problem is. The OP starts off with a blanket condemnation of all parental spankers, thinly veiled as a question. What the OP actually describes, however, is a highly specific set of actions (“0.8 seconds?”) and it’s unclear how accurate or widespread the practice is.
I am of the view that corporal punishment is sometimes necessary with some children, although I have never know it conform to the absolutely absurd picture you painted in the OP.
I’m not interested in debating anything, or in watching others debate. There’s no point in doing so, because everybody finishes with the same opinions they started with. And even if they didn’t, I’m not interested in changing anyone’s mind about anything anyway.
All that would happen is when someone sees something they don’t want to believe, they ask for a cite, no matter how obvious something is. Nothing is accomplished.
Oh, its some.
Whyever didn’t you say so in the OP? (I got the impression that you were asserting something universal, with all those ‘facts’ and figures), yes, I’m sure some adults do find spanking to be a turn on, whatever deviant behaviour you care to name, i’m sure that some people find it enjoyable. Your point again?
I’l try not to be completely offended by this. The difference is I would never be aroused by my children ever in any situation. If I see them naked, it isn’t arousing. But if I see a grown man naked, it is arousing (well depending on the man).
Arousal is as much an emotional response as a physical one and the emotions involved with children are about as far away from sex as they get.
If you significant other holds you and kisses you is it arousng? If your parent or child does it is it the same? How ridiculous.
Surreal, although I respect your dislike of excessive cries for citation, I would in all seriousness be interested in knowing where you got your numbers for orgasmic contractions of the vagina and prostate per second, as well as your source of info for swats-per-second.
As for the question you asked: I believe the number of parents who get sexually aroused by spanking their children is probably even smaller than the number of boys who want to have intercourse with their sisters, which of course is very close to none at all–here is the thread to which I’m referencing. I cannot help but wonder–and this, I promise, is meant in no way to be offensive–if there is some connection somewhere between this thread and the other?
In case anyone would be interested, Desmond Morris actually discussed some things along the lines of subject of the OP in one of his books, though I don’t remember exactly what conclusions, if any, that Morris made. If anyone is seriously interested, though, I would be more than happy to try to dig up the book and quote the appropriate passages.
Finally, FTR, when I spank someone, it is not at a rate of 0.8 SPS. However, I have only spanked consenting adults. Cite available on request, with a valid e-mail address and credit card number.
Smacking you across the face a few times will cause swelling and redness too, do you think that falls under the realm of the sexual also? Or how about you fall asleep in the sun and get a sunburn, that causes redness and swelling too, is that also sexual? Or maybe you eat something you’re allergic to, and get hives… There are lots of methods of causing “engorgement and swelling” so what connects just the two you mentioned in such a way? I mean, we either count hives, sunburn and being bitch-slapped in here, or we admit that the connection is so tenuous as to have no meaning. So which is it?
Another part of the bare bottom thing is tradition - back in the day, some people were so poor they barely had a change of clothes. You don’t want to take a hickory switch to threadbare pants that have to handed down to little Timmy - especially when the spanking offense was being careless with good clothes.
I suppose that spanking must be sexual, though - look how angry parents grab children by the face and scream, “look at me” when they are trying to stop a spanking offense in the bud.
Iduring the last 24 hours I have had the opportunity to empirically test one or more of the above timings (I won’t say which) and I can confirm that it definitely is not coincidence.
