@Kearsen, can you flesh out how the Democrats should both be more inclusive and also jettison large parts of their support? It doesn’t make any sense to me. If you could @ me, I’d appreciate it, because this thread is moving too fast for me.
As has been said in this thread already: “oh, you mean like health care reform and a minimum wage increase?” Or what about voter enfranchisement?
The implication that Dems are only, or even primarily, targeted at minority demographics is laughable, and that Dems’ policies and positions aren’t “inclusive” of white people even more so. Change your sources of information; you have no idea what you’re talking about.
I believe Biden is now ahead in enough states to add up to 270 EV, definitely a landmark in this count.
However he really doesn’t want to win 270-268, when a single faithless elector could throw his election into turmoil.
The irony being that the ACA/Obamacare isn’t even close to “socialized medicine.” 
That would be the most 2020 result I could imagine at this point. I can’t even predict where that would put us, but none of the alternatives seem optimistic.
I was just coming here to say that,i dont see how he gets more then that though.
That is my current understanding. BUT:
By the way Biden has flipped Arizona becoming only the third Democrat post-WW2 to win the state (Truman 1948 and Clinton 1996 won the state). He is also looking very competitive in Georgia perhaps becoming only the third Democrat in the past forty years to win the state (Carter who is from Georgia in 1980 and Clinton in 1992).
It’s not all doom and gloom. Trump didn’t put one state that voted against him four years ago into the GOP column and perhaps Arizona and potentially Georgia could become like Virginia and Colorado that once they turn blue for the first time they become reliable.
Arizona has a strong Hispanic community so there may be a much more cultural issue at hand that plagued Biden in Florida than mere demographic abandonment.
Those in politics can’t afford to blame the voters or call them stupid.
But those of us sitting on the sidelines certainly can - why not?
Looking at the current Google and Politico maps, and substituting Nevada for NE-2 – I’m feeling cautiously better. Very cautiously; but better.
Biden’s now leading in Michigan on both of those maps.
I’m crunching the numbers. If the % of votes counted is accurate in each state (a BIG if), Biden needs to get the following percent of remaining votes in each state:
- AZ: 40%
- WI: 50%
- NV: 49%
- MI: 50%
- PA: 68%
- GA: 64%
@Rittersport,They don’t need to jettison them, but as has been discussed in other threads, that very vocal minority is seen AS the democratic party platform. I understand that policy isn’t being built around those folks, but man it sure is front and center (Bernie almost got the nomination).
I think the way forward is for a more central party to form (of both Dams and Reps) who would have entirely decided this election if they weren’t just voting against one guy but for their own interests.
Most Republicans I know can’t stand Trump, but NO ONE else holds any of their ideals. Most of them I know, are glad to get conservative judges but cringe when they see tweets from the President.
This board is incredibly left leaning (at least some of the most vocal portions of it) and that left lean disenfranchises any support you’d get in the center from Reps.
I consider myself a conservative, yet I voted for Obama. The current trend of being woke and identity politics sickens me though
The irony in your words here is that the GOP are absolute masters of identity politics. i.e. rural, christian, white. So please, get some perspective.
I must be stupid, forgive me please!
NE-2 was called for Biden by pretty much everyone. ME-2 still hasn’t been called, but I think was leaning R. Only one is really needed for Biden to win a 270EV squeaker with AZ, NV, MI, WI.
The only way ME-2 would really come into play is an oddball result where NC flips over to Biden while MI goes to Trump.
That’s good news for Michigan since most of the remaining votes are coming from Democratic-leaning areas.I hope the same is true for WI and NV.
It isn’t ironic, its that their voting block is bigger than yours.
You have 2 options:
- Wait until yours is bigger
- Include more people
Except that the Democratic voting block has been bigger in the last 4 elections, and in 5 of the last 6.
Umm…
Biden: 68,987,489
Trump: 66,287,803
It ain’t the size of the bloc, it’s where they’re located at.
True enough.