Ok, well, that’s fair. But your initial posts seem to suggest that it’s not politeness you desire, it’s that you want her to want you MORE than you want her. IMO, of course.
Or, let’s say that maybe when she mentioned Sunday like she might be available then, and you didn’t respond favorably, she assumed you were blowing HER off. Now, each of you thinks the other one has to make the next step. No one steps and you both end up wondering what happened.
No, you didn’t say manipulated. You said:
She didn’t specifically offer to go out with you on Sunday. Therefore, you didn’t want her to think you were just available whenever. To me, that says you were worried, at least on some level, that she was trying to see if you were willing to change your…seemingly non-existent plans to have a date with her on a date different than the one you suggested.
Partying? Didn’t you say it was more like sightseeing? Also, there’s nothing wrong with a Sunday date. Friday and Saturday are not the only date nights available to single people. Now, in a town like mine, Sundays suck because the town rolls up the carpet at 6pm but that’s just here and doesn’t even include movies and restaurants.
“Bad boys” are the guys who, like “bad girls”, try to create the image that they are worthy of being chased, they are too cool to not have plans on a Sunday or call someone they are interested in if that person isn’t falling all over them. I’m not saying that’s what you ARE, I’m saying that the suggestions you are getting and seem to be taking to heart are the types of things these people do. And these people are terrible boyfriends and girlfriends. They are usually self-centered to the nth degree and usually have 2-3 members of the opposite sex they are trying to appear interested…but not TOO interested…in.
Why wouldn’t you want to impress someone you are thinking of dating? I’m not talking about impressing her with your manliness or your suave dating skillz. I’m just saying, it’s hard to find a decent man…and a lot of times, it’s hard to find a decent woman, too. At least do YOURSELF the service of being someone that mature women do want to be around, if you are trying to date.
Ok, this makes most of what I said earlier irrelevant, since it seems there’s no “love match” but I still think the things I’ve said are valid for this woman or any other you might be interested in. As for “cost-benefit”, I don’t know what to say. What is beneficial about the cost of dating anyone? Dating is not, generally, cheap.
Why do the two of you have to be “totally hot for” one another after…2(?) in person meetings? (Admittedly, I was totally hot for Euthanasiast after just a few conversations but that is just something special that doesn’t happen often enough) Isn’t that what dating is about? Finding out if you are compatible? Now, I know that sometimes you can just TELL if something has no chance of working out but your attitude at the beginning of the thread is like someone who was fairly interested which quickly progressed to “meh” after two tiny things happened. She turned you down for one single date on a day she already had solidified plans and you talked to some guys on the SD who have given you advice from one end of the spectrum to the other. You’ve already said you have a history of overthinking things, so is it possible you’ve just talked yourself right out of liking her for no reason at all? If your answer to that question is no, cool. Just don’t talk yourself out of any possible good outcome.
PS my johnson is just fine, thanks! :eek: Tangent: I’ve heard that LBJ was a real hellraiser and liked to whip his out at parties. I wonder if that’s the etymology of “johnson.” Many guys think of theirs as “presidential” insofar as we’d love to enter the “oval office.” 
