I might consider it if you make a case. But right now I am not inclined. Convince me. :dubious:
You did ask very nicely, but I’m afraid I’m going to agree with that at this point.
It does bring up a procedural matter though.
Can no lynch win the lynch vote? That is, if more people vote ‘no lynch’ than vote for any player, will there be no lynch that Day?
Voting “no lynch” is the same as lynching a non-walking Romanic. A lot of people considered that the worst town outcome previously, so unless you make a very compelling case, I’m gonna have to say that’s not in town’s interest.
NETA: “I’m afraid I’m not going to agree with that [the nolynch vote] at this point.”
Hadn’t thought about that.
Yes, the answer is yes. If you collectively want to vote no-lynch and can get the votes, who am I to stop you?
In these posts you are arguing that it would be best for Romanic to use his powers. <posts snipped, and bolding mine>.
So now Romanic has walked, just like you said he should. And early indications are that Town is settling on another target (who just happens to be you). Now your plan is this:
So now, out of the blue, you want us to vote no-lynch instead? I don’t recall you, or anyone else, arguing that no-lynch was a good strategy. If we’re not going to lynch someone else, why have Romanic walk away in the first place? We could have just let him stick around until Dusk and lynched him then.
Well, that goes back to the whole I know I’m town thing. I think using his powers was the right thing for Romanic to do and I think that we can find scum toDay in the pool of unconfirmed (everyone but me) but since I seem to have the bullseye on me unless I can get us pointed in another direction I know that a no lynch is a better option then lynching me.
Oddly enough, I agree with Mrs McGinty that he looks scummier now than when I thought Romanic was scum.
I suppose I should start from the beginning, though.
Sure wish you’d given us some thoughts on the game on your way out, Romanic.
Also:
"From the perspective of the guests, we see a long road leading away from the Cabin. Barreling away, down the road, is a giant 18-wheeler. The camera cuts to a view of the passenger-side mirror; we see a reflection of Romanic, head reclined against the seat, arm cocked out the window, his only thoughts of the road ahead. As the truck fades into the distance, we can make out the license plate: “ASS CUM.”
Hahahaha
Who is the “he” you refer to in the first sentence here?
Mrs McGinty. Who is absolutely, definitely positively male, except when she isn’t.
**vote Oredigger77 **
As I stated earlier, I don’t like this approach you have of basically saying it’s OK for you because you know you are town. This is not a pro-town approach since no other townie knows your alignment and you are basically just asking us to trust you. I have no reason to trust you since you cannot seem to back up your arguments with any information that I have access to.
It seems like you contradict yourself in your posts in an effort to explain away your hedging. Like this one:
You say your defense is ridiculous but that it should be the first point of data we use to evaluate a case. That doesn’t make sense to me. And don’t you think the scum are posting in a way that would imply that they consider themselves town?
Here is the original quote:
How is it that you are not trying to be convincing here? You are saying that you do not think you are scummy but everyone else is. That is your only defense for that vote. Since that was the only defense you posted, I inferred that this was your attempt to convince me that you aren’t scummy.
With Romantic gone, my main suspicions shift to three people.
- Oredigger and GuiriEnEspaña are, more or less, tied for being the most suspicious in my opinion.
- Drain Bead is also (still), but less than the others.
**Oredigger **and Drain Bead for things previously pointed out by others and myself and Guiri for an exchange that starts here in post 466. In it, Special Ed is the first to vote for Romantic. Guiri then follows that post with this one, post 467, where she clearly says she’s “not convinced” there are only 4 scum. She even says that it wasn’t the case in the first game as a reason she thinks it’s unlikely.
Special Ed replied next post (post 468).
And suddenly, we have a complete turn around. A total 180 from Guiri, where she votes for him. Buh?
This really seems/feels/appears like a huge “uh okay, me too” type post. One where it seems likely a bandwagon will start and so someone’s rushing to get on it.
The argument could be made, I’m sure, that Guiri was just convinced or had a change of opinion due to Ed’s post 468, but that fast? Folding that quickly? Not offering any sort of another counter argument after saying she wasn’t convinced?
I dunno, just seems really off to me. It’s something that stood out majorly to me at the time of reading it. And since I already had the same thought Brewha did in post 480 (“If that is the case, I’m pretty sure that at least one of those quick to vote for him is opportunistic scum that just found a good reason to place a vote on a townie.”), my suspicion of her turned on.
Vote Oredigger
vote: Oredigger
Oredigger and Mrs McGinty have somewhat related vibes to them. Oredigger comes off as trying to look good in the wake of an inevitable townie lynch, by proclaiming repeatedly that he would be using the rest of the Day to look for Tomorrow’s candidate. It looks like fake towniness. (And I note he has yet to follow up on that.) Mrs McGinty was very confident that Romanic would not have made that slip as scum, and I’m not sure that confidence can really be justified from a town perspective. But I’m not sure it can’t, either – as he’d tell you himself, I’ve never had the best of reads on him. I don’t entirely like his case on Hal Briston, but a couple of points are good, and the ones I reject the mostly strongly still make sense to me from the persopective of someone new to the sorts of discussions that go on around here all the time on day one. So I’m happy to give him more rope. Oredigger, not so much; I think the case is more than solid enough for the situation.
Oh, and Guiri was also the one who first pointed out Romantic’s mistake. Although I’m sure it would have been noticed anyway, combined with her complete 180 vote after a post saying “I’m not convinced” (yet having pointed it out), it looks really hinky (as Velma would say).
I think I see where Guiri’s logic was there, but I’ll let him defend himself on that count. It was very fast.
Him? I was thinking it was a her all this time. :eek:
You seem to be making more of a case for **Guiri **in this post but you are voting for Oredigger.
No, I was explaining why I found Guiri suspicious (something already done with the other two).
Not going to just say “I find so and so suspicious” and not say why.
This has gotten lost in the shuffle.
This would be an A-One idea if it weren’t to be that the mafia could then deduce that these players have a greater than average chance to be vanilla, also. Sorry for the grammar, but I think you know what I mean. I see three possibilities:
- NAF just plain gets to keep it overnight, and we revisit the issue in the morning. It’s assumed anyone who takes it without asking is scum. I think there must be some disincentive (the night action restriction for one, but maybe others also) against the scum owning it, else there’s little to stop them from lurking about the big red button every evening trying to get their grubby hands on it. Perhaps a player with the ability to detect who has it at night, something like that.
- Free-for-all at night, no responsibility to report ownership, and let the chips fall where they may. As I said, there must be mechanisms in the game to provide some sort of accountability.
- What you suggest, and just hope there are enough day powers and not-every-night night powers to confuse the vanilla/power role issue.
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I strongly recommend that toMorrow, we leave the Book where it is. That is to say, unless and until we collectively agree that a named player should pick up the Book, we will lynch any player who picks up the Book. Anyone who wants to have a read is welcome to make a case for why they should. However, as per my early comments about time, this decision should be made either in the first twelve hours after Dawn or (my probable preference) in parallel to the ordinary business of the lynch. That is, we can keep hunting Scum even while we make a decision about the Book.
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I think something like this might be workable.