Fargo S4

Re: Mike Milligan, Loy Cannon’s son is the right age and is currently living with the Kansas City mob under the care of a man named Rabbi Milligan.

They’re clearly building some kind of paternal/fraternal bond between them. Seems to me like that’s going somewhere.

good call.

It was a dream or hallucination on her part.

I am underwhelmed for the moment by S4, but will keep watching.

Chris Rock is OK but not great as the black mobster, I’d say; ditto Jason Schwartzman as his Italian counterpart (who really needs to kill his glowering Italian rival ASAP).

Glynn Turman, who plays Doctor Senator, is terrific, though - a very powerful, charismatic presence, and he dominates every scene he’s in. I also really like Ben Whishaw as Rabbi Milligan - pitch-perfect in his pathos, warped principles and stubbornness.

And Timothy Olyphant, bless him, is finding something different to do in his third role as a deputy U.S. marshal. Wow! I almost didn’t recognize him when he first came onscreen. I also think he’s had the best line of the whole season so far: “I’ve never heard anyone blaspheme as much as you, Captain. And I’ve been to Cleveland!”

I knew the girl would do something stupid when she looked into the quirky serial-killer nurse’s forbidden closet, but leaving her little notebook behind? Oy. (There is a very similar scene in Stephen King’s Misery, too).

The two escaped female convicts are a lot of fun. Very Coenesquely quirky. Do you think they killed the woman in the bathroom when they took her clothes, or just knocked her out or tied her up?

Anyone else notice the man standing in the middle of the street at night in the background when the camera followed the nurse on her way back to her apartment building in the first episode? Spooky.

Ah, yes, indeed - thanks. I thought the name sounded vaguely familiar - and it let them work in a reference to the actual city of Fargo.

Also cool - thanks.

Episode 4 definitely turned it around a little - Nurse has been busy.

I dunno, Rock seems smart/careful enough to actually be a Black mobster at that time. He’s still dangerous, but dangerous because he knows how to motivate other people. He knows he can’t really do much by personal force. Same thing with Doctor Senator, he knows what motivates people. Both are confused by the actions of people around them, and they’re simply trying to figure out the angles from the evidence they see at this point.

Schwartzman’s problem is there are certain people his organization can’t stomach him killing without good justification. Rock is at the top of his org, Schwartzman isn’t.

Tell it too me. That looked like a couple of hundred mementos, at least.

Jeebus, that Marshall has a genuinely chilling way to return a threat before he wishes you a nice day.

I’ve finished episode 3 and it seems incredibly tame and slow for a Fargo season. Very little happens. People didn’t like season 3 but it had loads more happening than this, which largely seems to be a mild mob disagreement, a ropey serial killer and a couple of escaped cons.

I am assuming the unanswered questions will remain unanswered. Such as how the mob boss got shot in the neck, and by who? It doesn’t seemed to have been the black gang which did that.

All in all, hoping it bumps it up about three notches soon, otherwise there will definitely have been a bad season of Fargo (I enjoyed Season 3).

I’m glad you mentioned the mob boss that was killed early on. I’ve been wondering who killed him. I thought I missed something.

Or maybe not. I’m wondering if he would have had a better day if he didn’t call them boys and say that he would have to clean up after them.

I just went back and watched this. It appears to really have been an accident. The kid actually shot him in the neck, I’m not sure what sort of weapon a kid could have which could cause this? A bb gun? I thought it was misdirection at the time, but a second watch definitely made me think that was the kid with a, what I’d call, air rifle.

Indeed, it might even have been deliberate. In which case you may have a proper Leon type of 8 year old…

Yep, it was the kids in the park with a “you’ll shoot out your eye” air rifle. Purely accidental and coincidental as with so many things that trigger Fargo plots. I actually expected something like that for that very reason so I caught it immediately and nodded my head. It was Checkov’s air rifle.

I like this season fine. As good as the earlier seasons? Not yet, but it has barely started rolling. And people have been bitching about the show going downhill since season two :wink:. Even if it turns out to be the worst season of Fargo I’m pretty sure I’m going to end up liking it okay, even if I don’t love it.

I think in some ways I’m an easier sell than some for this specific sort of material and I also grade on a little easier scale. I mean I grew up watching Three’s Company and Eight is Enough. Compared to that maybe most any prestige show in the Golden Age of TV is going to shine :laughing:.

Pellet gun. Usually not that dangerous, but it hit right in a neck artery near the surface. You can shoot your eye out with one of those.

No, they were playing a game.

Whew. Episode 4 was as slow as fuck. Just a lot of people speaking slowly and menacingly to each other. Then something happens in the last 2 minutes.

Does anyone think there was a point to the way the background noise kept coming in and out? Did it have meaning?

Huh. I saw it through an “unofficial” source, assumed that someone had just screwed up the sound mixing on the file. It was messed up for everyone?

Welp I also get it through an unofficial source so I guess we’ll have to wait for someone with cable to come along :grin:

We’ve only got to number 3 so far, and its glacial, and you’re telling me number 4 is slower than that???

Perhaps Hawley did find something interesting to do with Season 4, and that was to make it crushingly tedious.

I disagree that #4 is slower - the pace is picking up with several peices now starting to move together.

Several important events happen in 4 - not just the ending (which is undoubtedly the ‘most important’ of the events)

I’m not a film aficionado so I don’t know the terms I should use but I love the colors and way this series is filmed. There’s something about the “look” of it that I really draws me in.

Unless the Wiki page for Fargo is in error (or will be revised), Mike Milligan was born in 1949, so would be an infant in the current Fargo.

The ghost/phantom thing on the stairs at the funeral parlor and rising from the bathtub at the hotel could be the family curse/devil that Swanee asked Dibrell about. It has appeared in proximity to Ethelreda and Zelmare, family members.

It’s interesting to see some of the lukewarm reactions to this season because it’s possibly my favourite season so far (neck and neck with Season 2). If I had one slight criticism, it might be that it’s retreading some of the same ground as Season 2 (which I really loved, so that’s pretty faint criticism).