I agree completely.
“Never knew Bannon could smell so good.”
They’ve mentioned multiple times on the show that the Targaryens stick with their own kind, especially along the royal blood line.
I haven’t had such an overpowering urge to kneel in fealty before Dany since the end of season 1 when she stood up holding dragons after the bonfire.
I suspected she could understand the slave trader all along by her reaction shots to his insults during the first few episodes this season. A few of those scenes I rewound several times in a “What if she understands him?” review and it seemed like she did.
This episode, I rewound that whole scene three times because it was just too good to be confined to a single viewing. “I am Daenerys Stormborn of the House Targaryen, with the blood of old Valyria.” Mesmerizing.
And I continue to think that Westeros is hers by divine right. Magics are swell, but she’s the Mother of freakin’ Dragons.
Even moreso because we just saw her essentially renege on a deal like 30 seconds before that. Here, take this dragon as payment, and now go die in a fire. Her word doesn’t seem particularly reliable.
However, I view her as a demigod, above such mortal concepts as keeping her word. By that token it’s beneath her to give it.
Well, yeah, I did.
Some more clarification, please. Shouldn’t we, the viewers, know that Danny had “the blood of Old Valeria” in her, and hence would speak the language? She says it is her “mother tongue”. If we don’t know that, why don’t we? And the Slave Master guy? Did he not know who she was or what her background was?
I never suspected she understood the guy, but I didn’t for second doubt that she was going to tun the army on him as soon as she had it. It was not believable that he wouldn’t have taken some precaution against it.
I don’t think we had any way of knowing the language they spoke in Astapor was Valyrian. We don’t know much about the languages in the series, nor of Valyria for that matter, so yeah, not an obvious connection.
At the risk of being stupid, we didn’t know because she never speaks Old Valyrian on camera, on account of there not being anyone to speak it to.
As for slave master guy: he thinks she’s some jerkweed scion of a deposed monarchy in some far away, barely civilized land. If he had showed up in King’s Landing, would we assume he spoke Westerosian?
The show has a strong theme of people getting screwed by their own arrogance, but the big twist was kind of silly and telegraphed. Still fun to watch.
I have a question, probably a pointless nit. Shouldn’t Jamie have bled out when they cut off his hand, absent some kind of compression (can’t remember the term for wrapping something around a limb to prevent bleeding out offhand)? I guess his captors may have done so, don’t remember a scene of them doing it, or any mention of them. Frankly, it’s hard to believe they would bother, clearly, they hate Jamie.
And I agree, Slaver Guy clearly had a bad case of Plot-Related Idiocy in giving his whole army to Daenerys in return for a magic bean … er, dragon.
Let’s assume 100 soldiers per ship…80 ships, plus the one she came in one for herself and original group.
Don’t know how many Astapor has, but probably nowhere near 80. But we saw her march the army out of the gates, so she’s got something else on her mind.
She could go back to Qarth and get the now dead merchants ships, probably by threat. But Qarth is in the opposite direction of her final destination.
Or she could go back and pay the Dothrakis a visit just for good times, to make good on her word. No ships, but pretty sure would make a good retribution episode.
Or march towards Pentos, pretty sure she can get ships there if she’s got the cash, but since she doesn’t, maybe a threat of war is going to happen there?
There’s other cities on the shore north of Astapor, which has more slaves (and possibly ships), it seems that she will take the army there and see how things play out. It would be the route anyways to get to Pentos, and/or the Dothraki. Seems to be the best choice.
Well her previous plan was 40000 dothraki AND their horses.
The episode ended immediately after they cut off his hand, so the viewer has to assume that they put a tourniquet on him and bandaged him up between last weeks episode and yesterdays episode.
A hundred soldiers per ship plus enough sailors to man those ships. The logistics are going to be challenging.
Interesting thought … John Snow has never really expressed an interest in ruling Westeros … he just wants to get the Lannisters out. Daenerys DOES want to rule Westeros, and she has JUST the thing to deal with the White Walkers as they head south … dragons, which can make copious amounts of that fire thing that’s so unhealthy for zombies. So … allliance? Daenerys allies with John, she helps toss the Lannisters and their allies out, and gets the Iron Throne in return, with the Starks as favored allies in the North. Good deal all 'round for them.
I can see a dude being blinded to logic by being offered a dragon. It’s something that hasn’t existed in a long time and eventually will make him almost invincible to any challenger.
Plus, Dany risked her life that the guys that she bought 30 seconds ago would be infinitely loyal to her. How was she to know that the unsullied aren’t brainwashed to never attack the masters of Astapor, for example? It’d be a hell of an end to her story if she said “kill them all” and they just said “nah” and stabbed her in the face.
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Also, remember how the slavemaster said that he would buy any slaves she took on her campaign. As far as he was concerned, he was safe because he was part of a system - he bought slaves, trained them into soldiers, and the soldiers went out and sold him more slaves in turn. What general would destroy a source of income?
He just didn’t count on the fact that Dany doesn’t care about systems. She’s the mother or dragons, and dragons are agents of change.
Chin, all of that stuff you posted is unwelcome in this thread. This isn’t the thread for comparisons to the books, to discuss plot differences, any of that. Post that stuff in the season 3 open spoiler thread, there’s a link in the OP.
Which is why I said it wasn’t a big deal, but it’s best to have a zero tolerance for book talk in these topics. otherwise we get posts like chinchalinchin’s
Wiki’ed it; you’re right. Whoops. Alright, it might sense then. I withdraw my minor caveat.