Game of Thrones 3.10 "Mhysa" 6/9/2013 No book discussion

We re-watched the first two seasons right before this one started. There’s so much going on in this show, it’s very easy to forget or overlook some of the details. We’ll probably re-watch at least season 3 before the next season begins.

Anyone else giggle at Davos and “nigget”? Shades of Monty Python.

I think it is a fool’s game to try and predict GRRM will do with his characters, to be honest. I saw an interview where he said he wasn’t trying go against readers expectations so much as he wasn’t trying to make them dictate the story. If in his mind the “good” guys triumph is best for the story so be it, and vice versa. But it is more complicated than that, people die all over the place for various reasons and in various ways.

That amused me even more than (warning! Star Trek movie spoiler ahead!)

Spock yelling “Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!”

I don’t think that it’s “no one is safe”. They don’t just kill of characters randomly. Whenever a major character is killed, it is to drive the story.

However decapitating (both figuratively and literally) the leadership an enemy army is different from killing some random blacksmith boy as part of a religious service.

What is she bent out of shape with the Hound over? Because he killed her friend and because he served Jeoffrey?

I haven’t read the books, but the Starks are out of the King of Westeros game. At this point, it’s about John Snow and Bran fighting the Walkers on the Wall and Arya’s tale of bloody Kill Bill revenge. Sansa’s story is tied to however the Lannister family conflicts finally resolve themselves.

Some guy who got turned into a rat for killing a King’s son and feeding it to him. It wasn’t the murder or cannibalism that cursed him. It was breaking the sacred oath of protecting a guest under your roof. I assume it’s foreshadowing some negative consequences for Frey.

The story changes and shifts though. Robb and Kat’s story’s weren’t by any means done or resolved (unless you count “death” as a resolution) but the focus of the story shifted making them expendable to the plot.

Not if it gets one closer to the Iron Throne.

Killing the Butcher boy and probably his service to Goffrey. The Hound was on her hit-list prayer that she said every night–the Lanisters were as well, but I can’t remember who else.

The Starks are out of the “war of kings,” but not out of the running for the iron throne in the long game–assuming there is a kingdom to be ruled when/if they survive what’s coming to the wall.

Ser Ilyn Payne for chopping of Ned’s head and Polliver for killing her friend and stealing needle.

Yes, that was good to know. I was so annoyed with him about that, however even though he had extra he still could have grabbed that one before running off.

But now I have to wonder if Sam is really that fat or if he’s just carrying around so much extra stuff he just looks that way.

Jon Snow really does know nothing…yet survives somehow.

That scene had everyone :dubious: at Jeoffrey, even Cersei. I think that scene alone will make Jeoffrey take another step closer towards Murderous Psychoticwood.

It is funny that a Lord of an island with two weeks of rowing in a little boat away from Kings Landing would be more concerned with the white walkers than a whole city on the same continent with the white walkers.

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I guess they were not aware that Jon Snow torched one at Castle Black…maybe Sam forgot to tell them that.

Death is certainly a resolution. Robb’s story is a take on the traditional tragedy, in the spirit of Macbeth, etc. The Starks were doomed the moment Robb broke his oath. The story didn’t really shift, it was always going to go down this route. It’s by no means random.

Nobody really believes they really exist. Only Tyrion in King’s Landing took the Night’s Watch seriously. But Davos has seen shadow babies. He knows magic is real.

That wasn’t a white walker. That was a…zombie? Let me look up what they’re called in this universe.
Wights. The White Walkers have the power to reanimate the dead and turn them into wights, and that’s what attacked Jon.

Jon killed a zombified human, Sam killed a White Walker - they’re related (it appears the WWs raise people from the dead to be their zombie army), but distinct.

White Walkers are worth more experience points, but appear to drop no loot.

Jon torched a zombie, not a white Walker. Remember the finale of season 2. There were dozens if not hundreds of zombies, but only a couple white walkers.

According to imdb, his name is spelled Joffrey.

I guess I missed that distinction somewhere…I just assumed they were all white walkers because they were uh…white, and they were walking. Did I miss a certain scene were that distinction was made…OR do you guys know something that is not in the TV series? :dubious:

When I get home, I’m gonna punch your momma in the mouth!

So noted, even though he’s Tywin’s Little Bitch.

White walker (image from the show)
Jon Snow’s zombie kill

I’d say the distinction isn’t all that vague.

I certainly don’t think Ygritte put three arrows in Jon to help his story, but I do think if she wanted him dead, he’d be dead.

I think she was caught between her duty and her love for him and as a result injured rather than killed him.

When did Arya kill someone before?