Is there anything they can do for an abdominal wound? It’s a medieval society; what are they supposed to do, take her to the local Shock-Trauma for some surgery and a round of antibiotics? Honestly, seeing her stabbed like that bothers me. Either she dies and her 2 seasons of training montages are a complete waste, or she survives a wound that should be fatal and that harms my suspension of disbelief. I thought this was a show where people are in real danger. Now a gut-stabbing is but a scratch, and dead characters are coming back to life. (Plus the Internet spoiled Jon’s resurrection for me.)
They’ve definitely tried to sell us on character development of having her grow strong from her treatment and start to act with her own agency - learning the game under Littlefinger and such. At the very least, I feel like she should be stronger and more assertive in calling in the Stark supporters.
But even if not, then Jon should’ve played that role, or they should’ve said “Rickon is now Lord Stark, and he’s held hostage by the Boltons” or anything to that extent.
It just felt like we were robbed of a Stark moment to get another Davos “I’m the son of a crabber” recruitment speech.
It wasn’t the lack of aid that bugged me so much as the looks on their faces. If I wandered down a market street with a stab wound, there’d be gasps and people yelling to get a doctor(or call 911, but they don’t have phones in GoT). Instead, she got looks of disdain, disgust, or complete unconcern.
And this is in the same episode that we saw those nice people with the Hound at the beginning. It started me thinking that for all the evil and entitlement of the nobles, and the dangers of street toughs, that most people were good folk. It’s probably the only part of the whole series where I just knew that no one was suddenly going to get stabbed unless there was interference from outside(which of course there was). So it was jarring to find out that in that city Arya is in everyone sucks.
I would love it if the rose was the High Sparrow’s idea. I pretty sure it isn’t, but it would be a delicious twist - HS realizing the Queen of Thorns is a bigger risk than Cersei and getting rid of her.
It didn’t make sense from when she was stabbed, then when she didn’t surface by the bridge, then when she didn’t bleed out.
So I guess there will be another reality. Either that or we have another Risen Stark.
I agree that it was a church, but it was a very small building; about ten feet in diameter.
So more like a small chapel?
I think it was Castle Cerwyn, since she was talking about riding there and giving the Mormont ravens a long look just before. The Mormonts would have contact with the Cerwyns, but probably not Littlefinger.
She was reading from their scripture at the beginning. Perhaps that was a family copy, with the rose sigil as a bookplate?
When I grow up I want to be Lyanna Mormont.
Remind me, who are the Cerwyns and have they appeared in the show at all? It seems to me that the sending of a “secret” raven message was made to appear more momentous than a simple request for aid sent to a minor house in the north.
Ahhhh. Plausible.
Yeah, I figured that Margaery had to be playing the long con, although I have no idea what it is. And Margaery must have some specific plan with being so insistent that the Septa stay with them to hear the conversation, like she’s really getting the Sparrows’ trust and then she can do something to get Loras out and get revenge or I don’t know what.
And I wonder what avoiding the marriage bed has to do with her plan. If Tommen dies and has no heir, that doesn’t help Margaery. The best thing for Margaery’s power would be if she had a son and Tommen died so Margaery would be the Queen Regent. I guess she could just be getting Tommen more frustrated so that he’ll be easier to manipulate, but it’s not like she’s had trouble with that before.
I agree with Dewey Finn, it looked like a chapel to me, I think the top part was 7 sided though I didn’t look super closely.
I think it was the Septon who saved the Hound from being near death. If the Hound had actually died and then been brought back by a Red Priest, then I don’t think he would have looked near dead and only been saved by coughing.
Um. Margery repeatedly and openly told Lady Oleanna to go home, obviously a message approved of by the Sparrows.
Then she somewhat awkwardly sneaks her a drawing of a rose? Which is the family sigil. So basically the equivalent of saying ‘Go home’ yet again?
I don’t get it.
The High Sparrow threatened Oleanna to Margaery’s face, so Margaery wanted to get her out of town. Plus, as said above, it was a sign that Margaery was not totally brainwashed.
The message was just intended to reassure Olenna that she (Margaery) hasn’t been brainwashed – that she’s still a Tyrell. It was probably just a drawing of a rose because that would be clear to Olenna while still being innocuous enough to be ignored if someone else sees the message. And she told her to leave Kings Landing because of the High Sparrow’s implied threat against Olenna.
The out loud message is “the Sparrows are great and I’m choosing to be part of their group and so there’s no need for you to stick around,” and Margaery knows that Lady Oleanna would hear that and want to stick around and fight and would likely end up in prison. The secret message with the rose is “I’m not brainwashed, but I am serious about you needing to get out of here for your own safety.”
I would think that Margaery and Oleanna would need to coordinate somehow to get things done, but maybe that’s a longer term thing. Or Oleanna is just going to trust that Margaery has it handled. But Oleanna seemed pretty defeated when she was talking to Cersei.
I thought she was playing up her absolute religious conversion - “I’m so pious, I avoid penis”.
I’m not sure either, other than to reassure granny that’s she hasn’t gone full wacko.
Ayra didn’t dig Needle out of a wall only to get stabbed to death by a Waif. And the Waif went off the reservation by not confirming the kill, disobeying the “no suffering” clause, and I bet there’s probably a “don’t show your real face to your victim” clause in there, too.
The downside is that she’s probably stuck in Braavos for the rest of the season. By the time she heals up and kills that Waif, it’ll be 2 seasons here.
Also: Bronn! I bet he’s not getting a Lordship, a castle, and a pretty maiden.
Or, as about 37 other people in this thread have already mentioned, the wounds weren’t as bad as they looked, having been deflected by Arya’s coin purses.
Yeah but when the other guy’s reasoning is “your brother completely fucked us over and the Bolton’s actually helped with our problems” that pitch is not going to be terribly effective.
Seems as if the north forgets.
I’m think that since the Faceless are the power behind Braavos, there’s an unspoken rule that if you see someone mortally wounded, you don’t interfere.