Grimm Season 5

No - what I am trying to say is that

‘black claw’ is the ‘resistance’ and Miesner is no longer with them (nor is Eve/Truble by extension).

My reasoning - >

After the events where the king was killed along with Reynard’s brother(s) - the ‘Royals’ storyline seemed to end - as did the need for the ‘resistance’.

This allowed for ‘black claw’ to take hold - and explains miesner no longer being with the ‘resistance’.

Diana’s showing up with the black claw as she did shows that one/more members of the resistance are black claw.

as for Reynard not discussing black claw directly with Nick/Miesner - it may be as simple as he’s trying to play both sides a bit - a) become mayor b) get further into black claw.

We already know he has ambitions - he may ‘think’ he can contrrol them once he has that power/role - and can’t jeopardize being caught by outright planning things with Miesner and team.

is miesner even wesen? that would also be why he’s not in black claw.

That sounds very plausible. I’ll be interested to see if that’s how it goes.

He could be like Prince Kenneth. He didn’t seem to be Wesen, but when fighting a woged Renard, although Renard could fling him far having him crash into the walls, Kenneth never seemed to take any damage.

I’m not sure Black claw is the resistance. The resistance works with grimms like Nick and his mother, and I doubt Black Claw would want anything to do with Grimms. Although I can totally see Wesen members leaving the resistance to become black claw.

Black Claw is setting up Renaud to be their puppet, I think. They aren’t going to give him real power in the organization any time soon.

I don’t think Miesner is Wesen, never saw any indication of that.

I think they did already. Or something. There was something about Diana aging faster, or at least differently, than normal kids.

Not that I recall. The only thing remotely like that I picked up on is Reynard saying she’s gotten so big this episode.

TV has been doing rapid aging for decades. I tried to look it up on TV tropes and found a variety of rapid aging tropes depending on the reason for it.

There’s fewer restrictions on filming a child vs a baby, and they probably wanted someone who could remember lines. As for an in-world explanation. I personally don’t care.

Even though it moved the plot along, I thought that this episode was week, but I can’t pinpoint the reason I think so. Although I can say that the ironic death of Charlie by getting run over made me roll my eyes.

Oh, and then there are the secrets everybody’s keeping from each other. I get enough of that on Supernatural, I don’t need it in this show.

Anyway, Diana is extremely powerful and Eve is extremely powerful. Are we going to see them in a showdown?

But got a short episode order, because apparently NBC thinks they have too many shows. Why they can’t then take fewer weeks off, or even show some during the summer which is no longer unheard of, I dunno, but it’s not like TV network honchos have ever thought like normal human beings.

Yeah especially Wu. No reason at all to keep it secret, and every reason to seek their help.

I had an ugly trope-related thought yesterday. What if Kelly turns out to be 50/50 zauberbiest and grimm?

a) One screwed up wesen (do I kill myself?);

b) The antithesis of his half-sister Diana;

c) Eeeevil Kelly and Eeeevil Diana in cahoots;

d) ???

e) profit!

Half zauberbiest and half Grimm could make Kelly the most powerful and dangerous person in the world.

IMAO, Wu is not actively keeping a secret. He has not the foggiest clue what is happening to him at the moment.

I suspect…

once he does figure it out, the magic stick will come to the rescue.

Oh good. Tonight my NBC affiliate is showing the Clippers vs Trail Blazers game. :rolleyes:

I really liked this episode. Big focus on WereWu! I like that Nick and Hank want to protect Wu, but I wonder if any forensic evidence from Theo’s murder could point toward Wu. Who was Theo talking to on the phone about Wu, and why was he following Wu? At first I thought it had to do with Wu’s current ‘condition’ but I guess maybe it was more about Black Claw keeping tabs on Team Grimm.

I had guessed during the previous episode that Hank’s love interest was working for Black Claw (though perhaps she’s under duress).

I liked Trubel saving Meisner’s ass, and being all nonchalant. “Sorry I was late, I had to take out the other two Black Claw guys outside.”

Yes, I’m glad they didn’t extend the WereWu secret any longer and as mentioned the delay was explainable (Wu didn’t remember what happened).

Just because Adalind went to her daughter doesn’t necessarily mean she is “with” Black Claw. Are they going to force here to work for them? (will she still be at the law firm?)

Interesting that Black Claw wants Nick on their side – think they would just want him dead. Would they use him to kill Wesen who don’t join?

Brian

I’ve missed some episodes along the way. As far as I knew, Nick’s mother took Diana away when she was just a baby, way too young to remember her mother. Was there any interaction or communication between Adalind and Diana after that until just last week’s episode? It just seemed bother recognized the other too well considering how much of a change there is between a month’s old baby and a, what, eight year old?

Along the same lines: they want Renard to have a family for political benefits. But how much of a plus would it be for him? An illegitimate daughter he’d barely even seen, and not at all for several years? And the time line will be a problem if any reporter ever looks into it.

They didn’t know Wu was attacked , do you remeber Nick asking Wu if been attacked in the last show and Wu was trying to recall what happen to him.

Yeah, I knew they didn’t know then. But I figured it would eventually develop into a problem, and it has.

I was suggesting they could have used the magic stick on the infected Blutbad (whom they thought was the son but was actually the mother) in that episode.

They didn’t have the stick at that point.

Yes they did.