Something not many people touched on…
Seemed like the sound in the movie was fantastic. I hope they win some awards for it.
Obviously, the bombs from the Slave 1 were great.
Also, there were some subtle things. In addition to the Darth Vader breathing after the credits, it also seemed like they played the Darth Vader theme (Imperial March) briefly soon after Anakin killed to Tusken Raiders.
Another one… the voices of the aliens on Kimono (?) were great. I don’t know if they were altered in any way, but they fit perfectly with the appearance of the species (which was, IMHO, the best Star Wars alien species ever).
Originally posted by Jojo
Also, when Padme falls off the ship and lands in the sand she is knocked out cold. When the stormtrooper/clone comes, and she wakes up, the first thing she says is “We have to get to the hangar”.
How does she know that Dooku has gone to a hangar?
By the time she wakes up, Dooku, Obi Wan and Anakin are all miles away and she was unconscious the whole time.
I think that she knew only because it was pretty likely he was racing to a ship, and the ship would be in a hanger somewhere.
You hit the nail right on the head…sort of. Lucas is planning to do “Ultimate Editions” which will be those that eventually end up on DVD. I heard nothing about re-editing them to remove inconsistencies, but that makes sense. The only thing I’ve heard for sure is adding things, such as Jimmy Smits’ character’s reaction to the destruction of the Death Star.
I saw EpII yesterday, and loved it. Though it did lag a bit at the beginning, it picked up full speed. Getting “first glimpses” of now-familiar things in the Star Wars Universe (Boba Fett, Death Star, Aunt Beru and Uncle Owen) was fun.
Yoda is great. Though his match with Dooku ended in a draw, Yoda certainly showed his strength. I’ll never look at Yoda the same way again. (I’m reminded of Homer Simpson who, while witnessing a mob war, commented on a little guy on the Yakuza’s side. “Look at him-you just know he’s going to do something and it’s going to be good!”)
The clones are on our side. Interesting.
So, Jar Jar is evil, eh? Makes sense.
For some reason, something about Boba’s face reminds me of an Oompa-Loompa.
I wasn’t as impressed by the Yoda/Dokku fight. It looked more comical than dramatic, with Yoda bouncing around. I kept expecting his battle cry to be “Pikachuuu!!”
Plus a friend of mine and I had the same thought: that the hyperkinetic flashing lightsabers might trigger a seizure in photosensitive epileptics.
Amidala’s beaded veil at the end reminded me of the wedding scene in Fiddler on the Roof for some reason. I was waiting for Anakin to stomp on a wineglass and have everyone shout “Mazel Tov!”
Overall, better than Ep I, comparable in silliness to Ep VI, nowhere near as good as IV or (especially) V.
whoa nelly, mobo. jimmy smits is leia’s daddy. he dies on aldaaran. how on yavin could he react to the death star’s destruction?
That’s OK. Kameno(sp) sounds like The Planet Of The Cars to me.
Actually, my thought, after watching her jump off the top of a four story piller onto the monster’s back was “That’s gonna make childbirth even MORE painful for her in the future.”
Great move, for the reasons already described. I don’t have much more to add, except that I have the feeling that Jar Jar is going to redeem himself in Ep. III somehow, hopefully through a noble (and non vocal) sacrifice.
Pretty sure he meant “by the Death Star” rather than “of the Death Star” in which case his reaction would go something like this…aherm…
[jimmy smits]
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!
[/jimmy smits]
Thank you.
Prior to that I think it started like this:
“Hey, guys, how many moons do we have?”
Okay, forgive me for not reading all 5 pages…it’s late, I’m tired, whine whine whine, excuse excuse…but I did read the first page.
It was a very pretty, very flashy movie. But, some of the kinds of things that make me think a flick is actually good–creative writing, witty banter, thought-provoking insights or suggestions, natural actors, clever word usage, chemistry amoung actors–were sorely, sorely lacking. I’m glad we chose to see a matinee…it was worth $6 each to see Yoda unleashed, but to watch Hayden’s awkward “awkward advances” and witness the painfully bland interactions between the “lovers”…ARGH!
My aquarium water test kit has more chemistry than those two on screen. And the thing is, I’ve seen Natalie Portman act in remarkably delicate, sensitive roles–this was awful (for her). Seriously, when Anakin touched Padme’s bare back, then went to kiss her, I was stunned thinking–“Did I miss something somewhere? When was there any connection between these two? What, they have the hots for each other? Huh?” …and this when I KNEW they would have to get it on this film. Oh, and the rolling around in the floral field…FEH!
Han and Leia had chemistry…you could feel the sexual tension. Here it’s just two people in a room reciting flat lines to each other.
But…the monsters in the arena were cool. I was having fun analyzing their potential biological category and such. Much more interesting to me, I’m sorry to say, then the people with the flashy sticks.
I think I’ll stick to Star Trek.
I got a better one…
My friend next to me piped in ever so loudly right when ol Annie decided to say “I don’t know whats happening to me” as he gazes upon a Queen Amidala sporting something from Tatooine’s impressive ‘Taun Taun Leather and Tease’ fall collection (god damn…yknow she was doing this to dicktease the poor soul)
slight pause as he breathes out and…
“ITS BECAUSE YOU ARE HORNY YOU FOOL!”
Entire theater breaks up in laughter and applause and the ‘romanticism’ is ruined.
And of course it did not help matters that Lucas put a huffing and puffing Anakin shirtless…uh…“having a nightmare” as he ruffles the covers. Good God, does Lucas really think that kind of conveyed emotion is right after getting practically ‘blueballed’ by a young sexpot?
Can’t believe he missed that. It really did look like Vader was polishing the old lightsaber.
I could write better dialogue before I hit puberty.
Did anyone else really, really want someone to say “Ani are you okay?” when he got hurt?
Bwa ha ha! No, but when I saw the clone leader guys (the ones in the colored costumes), I did want to turn to DeathLlama and say, “Well, it’s good to see the Power Rangers are still finding work.”
Am I the only one who thinks that Yoda (during the light sabor fight with Dooku) looked like a dancing frog on crack?
Because of this, I can’t understand why most feel this fight scene is great.
Just saw it. Wasn’t worth the wait.
Piece o’ crap!
It seemed that the acting was delilberately bad. anakin needed more ‘young man angst’ and less ‘pre-teen temper tantrum’.
spooje, that was an understatement. I don’t know which was worse; the acting, the directing or the writing. I watched Final Fantasy again on HBO this weekend also, and I thought FF was the better movie. At least FF didn’t try to mix live characters into what was essentially an animated movie (with dialog normally only found in Hanna-Barbera classics like Birdman and Shazam). Even my 9 y.o. daughter was bored.
I predict a Weird Al song coming in the near future.
realitytrip
Perhaps that is the mythological doom to which they are headed, like the various planter gods who must die to be reborn, perhaps the jedi must die out to be reborn with both the sith destroyed by Luke.
The first page, at the very least, is a lovefest for this movie. This last page is … well … not so loving.
BUT…many, many of those who have praised the film have said something to this effect:
I guess this means that for some, decent dialogue is optional.
I loved Ep II. The action was great! The love scenes, if a little forced and corny, weren’t bad, and they were necessary for the plot.
A few points:
At the end, we get a glimpse of Anakin’s new hand, and OH MY DEAR SWEET JESUS WHAT THE HELL DID THEY DO TO HIM??!!! When Luke gets his hand chopped off in Ep V, they give him a realistic-looking artificial hand. But when Anakin loses his hand, they give him this creepy thing that looks like a cross between a skeleton’s hand and an armored gauntlet. How would you like to shake hands with that? :eek:
Some people have mentioned the problem with Owen Lars not recognizing C-3PO in Ep IV. I don’t think that it’s such a stretch that he simply forgot about 3PO. Assuming that they don’t meet again in Ep III, it will be 22 years before Owen sees C-3PO again. In that time, 3PO will have had his old, tarnished shell replaced with a shiny brass one. Don’t underestimate this cosmetic change. In Cloud City in Ep V, 3PO meets a silver version of himself. So we know that 3PO’s model, if not common, is not unique. Plus, he will have had his memory wiped at least once in the intervening years, so there’s no chance of 3PO recognizing Owen. [/geek mode]
Did anyone else find it interesting that C-3PO leaves Tattooine with Anakin and Amidala? Since 3PO came to the Lars farm along with Shmi, I would presume that he’s Old Man Lars’ property. It could be that Mr. Lars (what was his first name?) let 3PO go because he reminded him too much of Shmi, or maybe he gave 3PO to Anakin as a kind of “consolation gift” for losing his mother?
Noone else has mentioned the two other graves next to Shmi’s. I presume that one of them is Mr. Lars’ first wife (Owen’s mother). The third gravestone is smaller than the others. Maybe a child’s grave? Could Owen have had a sibling who died young?
Was anyone else surprised that Watto didn’t die?
Or it could be Lucas just didn’t think it through.
I do believe quite a few of the questionable plot holes are a result of that, but I’m not saying all of them are.
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Was anyone else surprised that Watto didn’t die?*No, just bitterly disappointed Jar Jar didn’t…and that he appeared more than once in the film.
At least they didn’t have the cartoon Gungan king with his pointless “B-B-B-b-b-b-b-b-b-bllllllllll!” spitting. Feh.
Just to make things clear: My opinion is not that this was a bad movie. It just wasn’t good.