How are gas prices in your area?

Not that anyone much cares, but the equivalent of the average Ontario price is about $5.60 US, about half of which is various taxes. It is somewhat shocking that this is close to the California price - since even with our weaker dollar, I am accustomed to thinking of US gas as much cheaper.

Johnny, I was up your way the past few days, wife and I got away for her birthday. We left a friends house this afternoon in Oak Harbor, Washington. We needed gas and saw it in town for $4.14 to $4.45 a gallon. I decided to wait and stop by a station next to an Indian casino, they are usually cheaper than anyone in that area but they were at $4.56. Stopped in Mt. Vernon and paid $4.17. On the drive down southbound I-5, saw prices from a low of $4.11 to a high of $5.29.

Angel of the Winds? When I see their prices, I think they’re not so great. (Ditto The Skagit.)

I’m going to try the Arco station in Lynden, which Wifey says is cheap – even if it is a 20-mile round-trip. We’ll see,

No, it was the Swinomish casino out towards Anacortes.

Generally speaking, it is, but there’s a lot of regional variance in gasoline prices here, due to differing levels of state taxes, and California has usually had among the highest gas taxes (and, thus, the highest gas prices) of any state.

Oil is at $126 per bbl today, a quick search shows that it peaked at $147 on 2008, and I think that is in 2008 dollars.

As for gouging, hard to say, though I doubt it in a commodity driven market. Oil companies made record profits in 2008, but that’s just simple economics: when your product is selling for record prices, you should be making record profits. You would suck at running a company if you didn’t.

$4.60 this morning in Chicago suburban Dupage County. A coworker has been driving his daughter’s car in instead of his large pickup.

I saw something like $1.45/gal during the summer in 2020 and that’s with Illinois’ 39 cent tax. That and so few other cars were a minor silver lining early in the pandemic.

I downloaded the Gas Buddy app. It doesn’t show Costco. It does show the 76 station on the res (right off the freeway) is the cheapest around. Gas Buddy reports they’re $4.35. I think they mean $4.359, or $4.36.

::facepalm:: I had forgotten about the low gas prices during the initial weeks of the pandemic. I basically drove nowhere and went something like 3 months without having to fill up my car so gas prices weren’t on my radar. I’m sure they were lower than what @ZipperJJ quoted earlier, so I’ll amend my response to say I have not seen $2.28/gal gas prices since ~2016, excluding the early months of the pandemic.

ETA: I just looked on Gasbuddy . com, and according to it the last time fuel prices were below $2.28/gal, not including 2020, was May of 2016. And that was a brief low price, a year earlier it was $3.17/gal (Eugene, OR, which is the closest city to where I live that they have data for).

Yesterday my local Exxon was $3.69/gal., and the Kroger a mile away was $3.79. I had 20-cents/gal. fuel points on my Kroger card so I went there and paid $3.59. This morning, per Mapquest and Google Maps, the Exxon is the same price, while Kroger has gone up to $3.89.

Every little bit helps :slight_smile:

ETA: This is on the edge of the Houston metropolitan area.

$1.68 CDN per litre at Costco yesterday. I recall from the 1973-74 oil shortage the “general rule” was it takes 90 days for crude to arrive, shipped, refined and ready to sell to the retail customer. If that’s still the case there are some people making a TON of money on this gouging.

I tried the Gas Buddy app yesterday. It said the Arco station near the airport had Regular for $4.19. I went down there, and it was $4.45 cash price. I turned around and went to the 76 station on the Lummi res. Gas Buddy was showing $4.36. I got there, and it was $4.46. Apparently, the prices only change when a driver enters the price at the time of purchase. The Arco price was a few days old, and the Lummi price was a day old. I entered the current prices for both places.

I’m wondering how useful Gas Buddy is.

I just paid $4.39 this morning in New Hampshire to fill my tank. Down the road it was $4.29 but they were busier.

It’s as useful as any other crowd sourced app, depends on how many others are providing updates. You did good by making the information better.

There are several issues at work here when it comes to Gasbuddy:

Regular prices can be fairly reliable, but:

During times of rapidly changing prices, even if people are reporting prices honestly and reliably, it may take a number of accurate reports before GB updates the price. That’s because GB has what they call a “reasonableness” check-any report that significantly differs from the last displayed price will require a number of additional reports at that new price before the site finally accepts it.

I often have to report something half a dozen times or more to finally get it to stick-in some cases I’ve reported them dozens of times (until I run out of time after reaching the current time), sometimes to no avail. But enough reports will ensure the price gets correctly updated, sooner or later.

That’s for regular.

For plus or premium however (and likely diesel), caveat emptor most certainly applies:

Most stations don’t report those prices on their marquees, so you have to drive up to a pump to see what they are. The vast majority of (accurate) reports however are by people who are driving by, so only regular tends to get accurate reports.

But, John, you say, most reports on GB DO show the non-regular prices! Indeed, they do, most of the time.

“So why does this Exxon over there say 4.41 reg, 3.69 plus, and 4.05 prem today?” you might ask. (from an actual report I saw today, Jacksonville FL)

Gasbuddy, in their infinite wisdom, has this points program, you see. The more prices you report, the more points you get, and thus a greater chance of winning one of their lotteries to get free gas cards, or a blow up doll, or something. The quaint notion that people would be willing to report prices for the greater good without some preschool level stick-and-carrot nonsense is apparently utterly beyond their ken.

So what will happen in such a scheme? If nobody reported the non-regular prices, they’ll eventually go blank, after 72 hours iirc. But somebody is reporting them, obviously.

Obviously.

If you click and see who was the last person to have reported for a given station, you’ll almost invariably see that they live several states away. How noble it is then to have all of these selfless souls constantly scouring the country reporting hundreds of prices per hour-whatever would we all do without their tireless efforts?

Of course, they in fact haven’t moved their fat asses from their devices all day long (except to go get a beer from the fridge periodically). They’re simply clicking on a given station and simply parroting the most recently accepted GB report, no matter how outdated/inaccurate it may be.

The local regular prices will eventually get corrected if sufficient local residents chime in. But since so few report the other grades, these stay at home points whores (as I like to call them) will tend to win the battle, at least for a number of days (until either they finally go blank after nobody reported anything for 3+ days, or the locals somehow manage to outreport them).

But, certainly, if there is a reasonableness check for regular, there MUST be one to check for the gaps between grades! After all, NO station anywhere will have +/premium cheaper than regular, would they?

You might think that would be an awesome notion that undoubtedly got implemented eons ago, but you would be wrong. The GB site has no such check, so the other grades can be pretty much anything. Oh, but they do have their own checks. In the example above, it is likely the actual + price is at least a dollar above the reported one. Which means, thanks to the in-grade check that it would likely require HUNDREDS of accurate reports to override the reported one now. That means that no prices would need to reported before the time limit cancels them out, so that then a local soul can finally get the right price in.

But our stay-at-home agoraphobics definitely keep themselves busy in any event. All this means that Gasbuddy during a period of wild swings in prices is pretty much worthless for those who use non-reg grades. For a local (I myself require premium) you can get to know what the typical intervals between grades are for a given station or chain, add that on to the reported regular price, and off you go. But on vacations it is often a crapshoot even when prices are stable.

HTH.

As of today, lowest price GasBuddy is reporting in Sacramento is $5.14, at a Costco that couldn’t be much more out of our way. Any place closer is worse.

$3.69 here - think I saw $4.09 earlier, but it was $3.99 for a while

Brian

Almost everyone around here froze at $4.25-$4.29 by last Wednesday 3/9. There were still two stations - across the street from each other - that were apparently using gasoline as a deep loss leader and stayed in the $3.89-3.99 range until this past Monday 3/14 when they shot up to $4.17 & $4.19.

Meanwhile, all the $4.29 places dropped down a dime to $4.19 a few days ago. And the one station that prides itself on being the cheapest gas in the area (but got caught a bit flat-footed here, as they were at $4.25 for several days) has been at $3.99/gal since Tuesday 3/15.

The “joys” of living in California. There are stations here over $6/gal. According to what I consider one of the more reliable TV stations in town, average for my county is $5.662/gal. Thank $DEITY DH’s current work project is in town and not 60+ miles away (which has happened).

My wife reported that the sign at the Lummi Reservation 76 station said ‘$3.96’ yesterday. I assume she does not count the ‘.9’ as I do, so I assume it’s $3.97.

I refuelled there Tuesday afternoon and it was $4.059.