Oops! My mistake… I meant the angry ChrisCTP… My apologies to the angry Diane.
Just call me Mr. Sensitivity
Wow!!
The last time I saw this thread it had 26 replies…
touchy topic, uh?
Gr8Kat … and that big ole world just keeps getting smaller, eh? 
You’ll have to excuse me, but I’m not sophisticated in the use of that damnable UBB code to get things highlighted or whatever.
THREAD POST: INITIAL ONE: Byzantine says;
{I’ve heard the fucking jokes. Jay Leno about Monica or Linda Tripp… it’s not about what they did, it goes to weight. That’s the joke. So, I’m not your ideal. I’m 5’9" and 190 and big enough to twirl you over my head and not even hit my target heart rate.
I can bench press my own weight. I’ve studied martial arts. I know I’m okay. Would you make fun of me in PERSON? Or is it okay if you are not in my face? As long as the woman you pick on is not in your face it is okay?
Where do we draw the line? It’s okay to fuck with Monica or Colistia… but you wouldn’t do it to your wife, your sister, your daughter. Well, folks, where do we draw the line?
It’s okay to trash women about their weight, but not the women in YOUR life? Where do we draw that line? What’s too thin? What’s too fat? Where do we draw that line? }
Gee. This initial post seems so gentle, so soft, so innocent and unhostile. There is no animosity here, is there? I love the part: /and big enough to twirl you over my head and not even hit my target heart rate./ Pacifistic is it not?
Then this 
I can bench press my own weight. I’ve studied martial arts./
Like, the initial reader really gives a crap, but the overt hostility just DARES one to say anything disparaging concerning the obvious obesity of the poster. So, I took the dare.
Defining lines. Hmmmm. Perhaps I was not clear. Refer to my post on the difference between big and fat people. The lines are there.
Drew Carry – Big. Mimi – FAT. John Candy – FAT. Anna Nicole Smith – BIG.
Big is where one gains weight in proportion to the body. Fat is where one gains weight out of proportion to the body. A 6 foot tall man or woman will not have the same body mass as a 5 foot tall one but will look as good or ‘average.’
This board reminds me of an interracial board – now shut down by AOL – where Blacks and Whites were to have a polite, even, interesting discussion concerning the races. I did not open with racial questions but responded to statements made and within two days was startled to find that there were rabid Black racists who took EVERYTHING I stated as racist. If I happened to point out that Blacks started Rock 'n Roll, it was somehow turned around that I was sneering at the Blacks, and I faced great diatribes of how white folks stole rock and roll, how the Blacks were now earning money they deserved through their music and how hard rap was the truth whites hated to hear and how I was a member of a devil race, created by some God just to harass the great Black species. They read my words but did not see the meanings.
I see something similar is happening here.
The initial post set the tone of this thread. I responded to it and now I’m a beast. Through most of my posts I’ve been polite while being insulted and sworn at. Then when I decide not to be polite, I’m an insensitive clod. My opinion was asked and I gave it. I did stress that I did not go around town expounding on this to everyone who walked by.
I assumed that it was obvious that I have not joined or formed any anti-fat groups, started no ‘fat folks are the devils spawn’ sites, have not razzed any churches containing fat folks, nor printed up and distributed any hate-the-fat-folk pamphlets.
Nor have I allowed a fat persons size to influence me professionally (I don’t refuse to work for a man or woman who can barely fit into their office chairs). I have never gone up to a fat person and insulted them directly nor burned piles of fake hamburgers in their front yards at night while dressed in a white sheet.
How can I determine the difference in fat folks who have a problem or are simply lazy? Well, not easily. I’ve observed fat construction workers out there hauling brick and stone and figure they are not lazy. I’ve observed fat people who are not all blubbery, with great rolls sagging off of their arms and down across their stomachs and assume that they are not lazy.
Then I’ve met those who waddle in with flip-flops on, full of loose fat, feet dirty, legs dirty, hair short, mean expression on their faces, wearing shorts that ride way up the front and back cracks and figure they are lazy. I’ve met those who are hefty and admit that they do not want to take the effort to loose the weight. Then those who were thin but bulked up and say they dislike their weight but do little to remove it or go on insane, crazy diets, drop the pounds, gain them all back later and gripe that nothing works. Then those who sit and sit and eat and eat and gripe about everything.
This next one ought to get me in hot water.
OPALCAT. I observed the before and after pix.
Lets discuss the before. Simply put; hot, seductive looking, trim, pretty, exotic, sultry. (I have spent much time in my past drinking days in topless bars to become virtually an expert on the dancers.) I was impressed. I would have assumed her general attitude to be much different from what she displayed on this page.
The AFTER: Sorry – my opinion only here – not pretty. Too big. No longer sultry or sexy looking and, from the webcam after a selection of 20 various pix, looks pissed and or depressed most of the time. The background of the house appeared cluttered, the clothing she wore emphasized her weight and I found it hard to accept that she had been the person in those previous pix.
Opinion: Lazy.
Why? Was able to be trim and slim so long as she got rewarded ie: tips, dates, good pay, gifts, admiration by scores of steamed up guys. (Even if they were drunk, the admiration is flattering.) Even with her bad knees she stayed trim.
After having a child, something changed and she apparently decided that it was not worth it for her to return to her previous weight. (Psychological? Possibly, but not that much.) Close shots showing her face when she is relaxed and watching TV or at the computer clearly display what I take to be a sullen attitude. That could be enhanced by the additional fullness of her face but whatever is the reason, the thin pix showed no such attitude.
My conclusion: 20% psychological 70% lazy.
Get it now cretins, morons, inbreds, imbeciles?
Please note, that unlike some of you, I have not yet made cutting comments concerning your personalities, love lives, basic appearances, or sexual attributes as you have of me.
Mark
“Think of it as Evolution in action.”
I am all astonishment. This latest post takes the cake.
You are the whiner here. You keep on digging yourself in deeper with your utter cluelessness, and then whine when people with a higher command of the English language (I don’t count myself as one of them, by the way) and a higher comprehension of UBB code (yep, I am one of them) rail on you, deservedly.
Poor poor guy. Boo hoo.
You just keep digging and digging and digging yourself in deeper, and (gosh!) you are astonished when people are calling you things like “loon” and “asshole”! Poor fella.
I will save my scathing remarks regarding the rest of your absurd, stupid, clueless post until later. I know I can count on others here to do just fine responding. (I gotta get off line right now to do something else.)
elelle: Why so serious? I doubt anyone in the Pit means half of what they say. If you’re easily offended, fuck off, eat some more twinkies and go dwell in the land of MPSIMS (note proper Pit behavior).
I am overflowing with the Milk of Human Kindness.
Hell is Other People.
Ok, folks I have tried three times to respond to Mark’s last post. However, even I
can’t come up with anything bad enough to say to him this time.
Geez if he had a daughter who grew up to be a BBW, I wonder if he would disown her. Sounds likely to me.
Ayesha - Lioness
You sound reasonable. Must be time to up my medication.
FYI - I am not fat (check out the SD Homepage to see my pic), but does that mean I can’t state my opinion that I find your opinion and those like it disgusting?
Yes, you are an ugly, sickening, disgusting waste of flesh, and I have never even seen your photo.
>^,^<
KITTEN
Please tell your pants it’s not polite to point.
I have a little energy, and a little time. I’ll try to respond. It is utterly pointless, but for the edification of someone out there…here goes.
First off, what is this “Big” vs. “Fat” thing? Huh? This reminds me of classifying of certain kinds of minorities - pardon again the imperfect example - but it reminds me of making the distinction between a person of color that is light-skinned, compared to a dark-skinned, and implying that one is “better” than the other. Or, saying that a person of a certain ethnic background is somehow “better” than another member of their race, because their ethnic features are not as pronounced. It is weird and creepy thinking, actually. Ewww.
Get this straight - people’s fat collects where it does. I believe that there is some connection in activity and what sorts of food you eat and where your fat collects on your body, but it’s not just that.
My sisters are not very overweight (like 5’6" size 14) but they have a lot more fat on their hips than on their upper half. They have narrower shoulders, and wider hips. It’s not that noticable, they are not that fat, but I daresay if they were to get up to size 24, they would be ALL hips. It’s the way they were built. And they wouldn’t have to sit around being especially “lazy” for the fat to collect there. It’s already there when they’re thin - it just gets more noticable when they gain weight.
I, on the other hand, am “balanced”. Whatever else I am, I am that. When I was a size 24, I was size 24 all over - no extra big butt, just big all over. I am a size 18 now, I’m size 18 all over. What did I do “better” than my sisters, in order NOT to have the big butt? I dunno. Take after my mother’s side of the family, I guess. So, according to Mark’s carefully and offensively described standards between “big” and “fat”, I guess I would be “big” and my sisters (were they to gain a little more weight) “fat”. Gee thanks. I feel so special.
(In keeping with the custom started here, I have an example of my bigness.
http://www.chickpages.com/treehuggers/yosemitebabe/images/yosbabe.jpg )
Oh, I’m sure I’m ugly and hefty and blubbery to some - they yell that at me from the street, so I know for sure that I feel that way - but I am also “Big” and I feel so special!
Mark - the thing that I don’t get here is why take the time to painstakingly describe what kind of people you find so unnattractive. Like that is YOUR business, so vital to YOU, to sit down and decide how much you find certain fat people unattractive. And then (through your psychic abilities, apparently) you deduce that they are “lazy” and “sloppy” or whatever. Really weird. Get a life. I see people that I find not terribly attractive, I just look away. Try it sometime. Your exhaustive descriptive detail shows that you REALLY put a lot of thought into this. Get over it.
I am so offended by how you described Opal’s photos I can hardly spit. Amazing.
This is not about having to “love” fat people, or even find them attractive. I see fat people and wonder why they wore that, or why they got so big, or whatever. But it is a fleeting thought. I feel some sympathy, and then I think of other things. This excruciating detail you put into describing fat people is so, so weird. You are scary.
Also, someone else made the fart analogy - the difference between being annoyed and offended by the smell of flatulence is that you have to physically LEAVE the area in order to avoid it. With someone who is “offensive” (according to you) visually - the solution is simple - LOOK AWAY. And, face it, most of us have some physical characteristic that could be “offensive” to someone else. What can be done about it? How do we make sure our appearance does not assault the delicate sensibilites of someone else out there? The answer is we can’t. Anyone who really expects that someone else should be obligated to change themselves in order to not offend the visual “delicate sensibilities” of random strangers is an idiot.
I’m tired now, I’ll let someone else pick up where I left off!
Mr Sensitivity first writes:
Then at the bottom of the post, adds:
Then:
Feh. . .
Next Mark yammers:
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
Are you really that much of an idiot to think we are going to buy off on that bullshit?
That crap you said about Opal just confirms what an ignorant prick you really are.
>^,^<
KITTEN
Please tell your pants it’s not polite to point.
yosemitebabe: Bite me. Go back into your kitchen -I’m sure the floor has a clearly etched and well worn path in it, open the fridge and take out your gallon of mayo then eat it and shut up!
If you’re fat - be friggin’ fat and stop growling at the obvious when someone points it out.
Ayesha: Lioness? Overweight, pampered house cat from the sound of it. Drop back into your lounge chair in front of the television, tune into Rikki Lake or Jerry, shovel some more chips and dip into your maw and stop trying to be clever.
GEEZ! Fat folks can certainly bitch!
There’s a trailer park in Ft. Pierce Florida where it seems that every other home has a resident tub, either male or female. Most spend the day sitting around and yellin’ at the kids, the neighbors, playing the friggin’ televisions and radios too loud and getting real pissed off at anyone who DARES to criticize them. Pop belches heartily out on the porch looking like a beached whale, shirt open all the way down as if proud to display his pallid and hairy tumor-like girth, mainly beer generated. Maw sprawls on the couch in her Moo-moo (I know -mu-mu ) fat dirty feet propped up on the cushions, bullet head decorated in short, greasy hair, knocking back cookies and candy, washed down with bottles of diet Pepsi, wearing night blue spandex pants with those little thongs that go under the feet. (Ewwww! Stinky!) and a blouse from Omar the tent maker, occasionally scratching at something irritating under her enormous knockers, looking pale and ‘spongy’ and piled there in jiggly mounds. Flab hangs in enormous folds from her arms and her face, jowlly and plump, holds a perpetual scowl while her eyes have turned into piggish little glittering spots in her deep set sockets.
I was right! These nice, gentle, caring, creative, harmless, wouldn’t hurt a fly fat folks have a better than average grasp of the sarcastic barb, slam and smash as well as practiced use of obscene language.
Mark
“Think of it as Evolution in action.”
One question Mark -
Loved your description of your mom and dad, but what gives you the right to say anything? Don’t like it? DON’T LOOK! Want to speak ill of them? Say something about the jackass they raised.
Or is that concept a little bit too difficult for you to grasp?
>^,^<
KITTEN
Please tell your pants it’s not polite to point.
Mark - such descriptions! You REALLY put a lot of thought into these fat people, didn’t you? What do you do, take pictures of them so you can keep the memory of each fold of flesh vivid in your mind?
You have some bizarre fixation about fat people. Weird. Really weird. And sick. You REALLY are in need of a life. Describing how disgustin you find fat people seems to be a full-time job for you.
Concerning my critique of OPALCAT pix:
Hey! The challenge was there and asked for and I responded. In her case, it is obviously fact. From pretty and slender to depressed looking a tubby. Some kinda change here, what? Damn! You buggers throw out a challenge and then when someone truthfully answers it, you try to snowball him by picking at everything secondary he says rather than facing the obvious.
Read the first friggin post of this thread. Challenge or not? Challenge. Don’t throw the glove down unless you’re willing to engage in the fray.
Mark
“Think of it as Evolution in action.”
Engage in the fray? Just what the hell you talking about? Are you trying to separate the threads on this board?
What a dolt.
>^,^<
KITTEN
Please tell your pants it’s not polite to point.
DIANE: Down and dirty, huh? I KNEW fat chicks could be more vendictive than thin ones. Bringing my folks into it now in an attempt to slice me up!!
I am sooo wounded by this churlish ripost from you! OHHHHH! BAD! You bad bitch, you bad!
Pull the spandex out of the crack of your ass and have some more fried chicken and biscuits. Put on them damn flip-flops, you know, the ones all worn out on the inside of the soles and don’t forget the diet Pepsi.
(Buncha morons.)
Mark
“Think of it as Evolution in action.”
The threads in this board will never be seperated because they are glued in place by lard, crisco, butter and mayo.
Got get them fritters now! Have a few corn dogs, make that thickening gravy, chow down on those scratch biscuits, set your keister down in that Barco-lounger and scratch the pimples on your ass from time to time. Got any velvet Elvis paintings on your walls?
How can you type with all of that chocolate smeared on the keyboard!?
Hey. Can’t take the heat, then get out of the kitchen.
Mark
“Think of it as Evolution in action.”
Mark - you don’t even try to respond to any of our comments - the “fat” vs. “big” thing, and the explanation about why the thought of casting your delicate eyes upon fat people troubles you so. You just get nastier and nastier. Not one real response to many of our comments and questions. Just more paragraphs of descriptions of fat people. What a fixation you have!
Is anyone else enjoying the public display of total mental breakdown this freak is having?
Come on Mark. . . . breath. . . . breath. . . . breath . . . .
No wait, on second thought - don’t.
>^,^<
KITTEN
Please tell your pants it’s not polite to point.
Oh, and Markie-Poo?
YOU’RE the one who called them “pop” and “maw”, not me.
(Gawd it gets tiring explaining the posts to the retards, especially when they’re the one who wrote than damn thing.)
>^,^<
KITTEN
Please tell your pants it’s not polite to point.