Except you didn’t say “think.” You said “this isn’t true.” I hear you saying that this sentence referred to his potentially dichotomous personality, not the actual appeal of his IRL personality. All I can say is that I (and evidently others as well) didn’t read it that way (‘you may think he’s a peach IRL. It’s not true.’ See where I’m getting it?). But there’s no point in me arguing with you over what you meant.
And again, I agree with everything else you’re saying. You say you don’t want to convince anyone of anything regarding Zenster, fine. I’ll let it go if you will.
I haven’t really interacted with you other than in your dog thread.
You wrote me back, after the fact. I thought that was so thoughtful of you.
I am really saddened by this thread because I don’t think ANYONE here could escape unscathed if we were to be judged by every single one of our IRL actions.
I know I have had my bad days, and I would come out looking like the bitch of the year if every one piled on.
I think this thread speaks volumes and volumes about the people who have participated in it.
You’re again cutting it off. If you only apply the “it’s not true” to the second half of the preceding sentence then it means what you thought. If you apply it to the whole preceding sentence, then it isn’t contradicting the “peach” idea, but the idea that his online personality can be viewed as distinct from his real life personality.
But I will also admit that I frequently get into trouble because I don’t think it is necessary to precede the obviously subjective with the phrase “I think” or “In my opinion”.
“I don’t like Zenster”
“Daddy Day Care is a bad movie.”
Both are obviously subjective determinations, both are obviously just my opinions. It gets tedious to constantly label obvious opinion as such.
And I don’t want to convince anybody whether they should like Zenster. I do want to convince people that his online and offline personalities are essentially the same, and that those who like his online personality will probably like him in real life and those who don’t like his online personality probably won’t like him in real life.
But I can let it go as well; the weekend is almost over. So, with this, I bid you all adieu. It’s been fun.
No, I know I was cutting it off that time. I wasn’t still arguing for my interpretation, just trying to show how I arrived at it. Sorry I didn’t make that clearer.
Have a good one.
On preview: whistlepig, leave him alone. I called him an asshole, does he not have the right to respond? Every single one of the last 5 or 6 have included him saying “I don’t want to convince anybody whether they should like Zenster,” so lay off.
Next time we go to Demo- and Psy’s, I’ll swing by Play It Again Sports and get one of those inflatable pools, then I’ll swing by Cala and buy out all the Jello pudding mix they have. We’ll set it all up in their backyard, and have a Jell-O Fight To Creamy Death! (Speaking of which, where’s SeaDiver…?)
YUCK! What happened to “Poster A you are an a-hole because you said…” then poster A tells Poster B to fuck off and it’s all about WOMD or some such thing! I was feeling ick about this thread about halfway through so I only skimmed but am I wrong in thinking that Zen didn’t respond? And if I am not am I wrong in feeling a bit concerned?
My 2 cents is that pit threads should stick to “You, Poster A sir are an utter wanker because you believe in farming cats for fur”…“well You, Poster B are an arsehat because everyone knows that cats fur is warmest”.
Shit surely there is MORE then enough to argue about without denigrating (or elevating) people based on IRL experiences. I just hope Zenster (brilliant chef OR loudmouth) is feeling ok and is still wanting to come back after this thread.
I admit to feeling a tad jealous that dopefests are allllllllllllllllllll the way over there, so I won’t be attending one anytime soon and I admit to loving reading about them. BUT I don’t think that opinions about others based on these meetings (or other IRL meetings) are reason to critique someones postings. I have never met a single one of you…I know I “like” some of you and “dislike” others. That may or may not influence what I read but only in the way that I am more willing to read one author as opposed to another. When I dislike an author I don’t feel a need to find out more about his personal life to back up my dislike.
I like my SDMB with people to “like”, people to “hate”, lots of people, lots of opinions and lots of fun.
This thread wasn’t fun.
The point being made is about what sort of person I am. At first the thread concerned my presence at this board but others have seen fit to take it well beyond that. This is going to be a long post, so please buckle up for the ride.
Because of the kindness shown by so many fellow board members, I most definitely will respond to this particular Pit thread. I am so late in posting because I’ve spent the entire weekend helping with a fundraiser for one of the largest Burning Man encampments. I cannot express in words how wonderful it was to be around these people. All of them are utterly transparent and open with everyone else. There are no mind games and ill feelings, fights or violence are not even an applicable concept.
Saturday night’s party was a huge success and I’m waiting to see how much money we raised for the Burning Man installation. Yeah, the music was Techno (not my favorite) but I would just about listen to Rap (not really) in order to be around people like them. I’ll give you an idea of what sort of folks these are. Somewhere around six o’clock in the morning, someone borrowed my gold Cross pen for the umpteenth time and I was too exhausted to get it back from them.
I discovered the loss in the morning and fretted mildly about it on the way back to San Francisco for today’s site cleanup. I was confident that a simple group email would suffice to track it down. As an aside, a few blocks away from the party’s location I saw something that lifted my spirits all day. Forty people were in a business plaza’s courtyard doing some fine and well-synchronized jazz dance. I am unable to explain why it was so intensely beautiful to see all these people joyously performing their art. I could only think of the previous night’s party and all of the excellent artists who were there then.
With misplacing my gold pen still nibbling around the edges of my mind, I walked into the party site and PRESTO! there was my pen, laying out on the bar, where I had done a few shifts the night before. This was the caliber of people I spent the entire weekend with. I cannot adequately explain to you the profound joy of being around so few mind games and head-trips. Such garbage mentality was literally non-existent and the harmonious atmosphere was incredibly nourishing, refreshing and uplifting to my spirit and soul.
Time for the old mail sack:
"… The sad thing about this rant is that I think that he is probably a wonderful person to know. He obviously knows his stuff about cooking, he cares for his fellow human being, and he has some incisive comments to make about the human condition …”
I’ll let you speak for your self , TB’s U (Oh by the way, is it Mr. Briefs, Mr. Boxers or is this all a horrible ironic twist because Tony Barber goes commando?) So far, all of this is strictly your opinion and I may not agree with it but I’ll defend to the death your right to mention it.
Next!
Quite a fair and reasonable suggestion. Thank you, mallocks.
Getting rather ahead of ourselves, aren’t we elf6c? Rather prescient of you, I’d say.
I think I hear a cite rattling down the driveway. One will be here soon. From the looks of things, it seems like Tony’s got his panties in a rather nasty bunch.
Neither have I, lieu. That single statement may well be one of the most profound observations in this entire Trainwreck of a Thread™. I guess that now Wildest Bill has been banned, the position for Most Annoying Poster is up for grabs. As per my usual overachieving self, I’m trying to medal in both the IRL and Online events.
[looks down past the soon to mentioned and now famous underwear]
Nope, still a guy.
[/looks down past the soon to mentioned and now famous underwear]
Who knows? Let’s just say the safe money is on that one coming up.
This one short post most succinctly summarizes the entire issue at hand. With this ordinary and intelligent question now asked, anything beyond its simple answer is only so much malicious window dressing.
Top of the list green_bladder, good call.
Thank you, wring. It’s nice to know that what I hold dear is pretty obvious to others at these boards.
Ahhh, dependable as a red-ragged bull. Seems unusually brief for one of his pet topics. Let’s all wait and see how he remedies this glaring defect.
Thank you for the complete answer to intarweb man’s question. Seems like something any eight year old can figure out in a minute or less.
I find the scroll button to work with equal effectiveness. Evidently, others are incapable of deftly operating such an advanced technology.
Sounds too complicated, I’ll stick with the scroll button.
All right, enough of the cracking wise, already! That’s my turf and I’ll brook no interlopers.
Have I told you how wonderful your hair looks done up that way? Thanks for your vote of confidence, JT.
Why, thank you Doctor. Got any more of those happy pills you like to scatter in your wake? I too, am rather wooshed about what it is that comes across as arrogant in the “Butting In Line Thread” (hereinafter referred to as the "BILT).
Gosh, Kyla, I haven’t seen or heard from you in years. How nice of you to drop by and share your candid insights with us today. Evidently email or some remark to me in person was out of the question, so I’m glad you had the chance to post it here in this intimate little setting.
Hey, what’s that over there on the carpet?
Stick around JT, that’s lightweight stuff. The fun’s just beginning.
That’s, Mister Insufferable Food Snob to you, jarbabyj!
Thank you, Sylkyn. Your email really touched my heart, as do your kind words here.
Do you have the nerve to insinuate that I might have something with other members of these boards?!?
What an outlandish notion! Who’d have thought?
Word, sister.
Thanks so much, Arden Ranger. Your latitude is well appreciated. Knowing that your daughter had a real birthday after all was the best part of things. You seem to understand my own motivations really well. Others around here may not, so I’ll take the liberty of clarifying things here in case they are unclear.
Most often, I give or do good things for one simple reason and one alone;
Because I can.
People around here love to beat me up over this as being arrogant or self centered. I could care less and view their protests as something akin to resentment that I should think that way.
Arden Ranger, in your specific case I had another nearly overriding motivation. (Yup, here comes the dreadful, icky “strings attached” part. You just knew it, didn’t you?) Since you have already made note of your financial difficulties during that time, I’ll make mention of something more minor which really shook me up.
When you told me how your daughter had instructed you to spend her birthday money on Christmas presents for her little brother and all of you, it ripped my heart out. I get all dewy just thinking about it now. When I heard that, it made me resolve to show your daughter that Christmas is a year-round event and a compassionate young lady always deserves a sweet sixteenth birthday. If there was happiness in your home that day, it’s the best reward of all. That you are so kind in rising to my defense here, is priceless. Thanks.
Your vote of confidence is much appreciated, alice_in_wonderland, thank you.
You da’ king there, Emperor! Thanks.
Well, at least oneVixen here thinks so. Thank you.
Just wait, it only gets better.
Wow, a free upgrade. What a great day! Thanks, Miller.
Thanks, Doc. My offer still stands. Just let me know if you change your mind. I wish you the best.
I’m honored.
[bows]
Ehhh, quit yer knittin’, Ike. I only pretend to have a miniscule portion of your literary wit. Matter of fact, got lots of kudos on my saxamaphone playing at the party last night. I like knowing that we have this noble instrument in common.
And this is where you cross the line, voguevixen. It is a serious accusation for you to charge someone with stalking, be it in cyberspace or in real life.
I now give you three options:
Post an immediate retraction and apology in this thread or at these boards.
Absent that, post any and all emails or chat logs showing every contact that I ever had with you almost three years ago. Demonstrate with such evidence how you are entitled to maintain the position that I have ever in any way stalked you in cyber form or in real life.
Be reported to the moderators for your slander.
You have gone beyond the pale with your false accusation and I find your particularly jerkish behavior absolutely disgusting.
Woo Hoo! Three out of five Doctors agree! Thank you for your pleasant and rather spot-on assessment, Doc.
A very good question and one that we might get an answer to if voguevixen has any ovaries at all. Stay tuned.
Thanks, I agree with you even if others don’t.
This could use some clarification.
Do people actually read the posts in a thread anymore. Please come back and post once you have actually taken the time to do so, Demo.
fessie, your compassion puts you well past the “newbie” category compared to some more tenured posters at these boards. I’ll gladly contribute to your threads whenever possible.
Thanks for the links, Scylla. We don’t always see eye to eye but I’d like to think that we share similar values. Please drop by the cooking thread sometime. We want your legendary fajitas recipe.
Thank you for remembering, Ruby. That was a real rough patch for me and the support I received here was very helpful.
Thanks, gal. I hope your sis is safe and well. Both of you are missed over in the new recipe thread.
Coming from one of my all time favorite posters, I am near to squirming.
Get back on topic you SUV driver, you!
More of these serious allegations. This thread’s a regular scandal sheet!
You’ll have to ask him to speak up a bit. Always talking through a pair of trousers muffles him somewhat.
I’ll have all of you know that bdgr posted this despite me not finishing his new resumé some weeks ago, like I told him I would.
God Forbid those of you who bitched about Zenster publicly on this board tell him how you feel about him. I’d think that if your sentiments were important enough to tell, you’d tell him first, and in private. Because that would show a certain amount of guts, decency, and good taste. But, I guess with some of you, it seemed better to go the gutless and tacky route, and air your feelings on a public message board.
Just last Friday I heard some one say that the burrito I made for them was “the best they had ever had in their entire life.” Here’s text from an email sent by a very influential person who guides one of the largest burning man camps.
Chris, those burritos were not only amazingly tasty but they really created a cool bond with everyone…
THANK YOU!!!
Congratulations on having a palate sufficiently refined to see through my guise of merely reworking cheap TV Dinners. There also might be nearly one thousand concert attendees from last July to tell you otherwise. They could tell how the food I served there broke every record in their five year history for:
ON TIME SERVICE:
Dinner set for 6:00PM, served at 6:05PM.
MAIN COURSE QUANTITY
The Mexican tri-tip did not run out, unlike the meat dish at every previous festival.
OVERALL FOOD QUANTITY
More than 1,000 meals were served that night. No returning diner was denied second or third helpings.
SPEED OF SERVICE:
Almost 700 diners were fed in 45 minutes.
And last but not least:
QUALITY OF FOOD
Agreed by all to be the best tasting food ever served there. Even the camp owners who eat at many of the events said it was the best camp cooking they’d ever had while operating the place.
Time of preparation? Five hours, which represents a cooking time of nearly twenty seconds per plate. I was given a twelve-person crew of complete strangers who had absolutely fabulous attitudes. We each and every one of us had a total blast. At the event, I made a lasting friend who is a good cook and really great to know.
But let’s not digress.
Back to the old mail bag:
And I think that shaved head is cooling your brain so much it makes you ill tempered. Why, you didn’t even laugh when I joked of your suffering from “premature Kojaculation.”
You rose to my defense once upon a time but apparently have taken a more vindictive turn of late. You seem equally willing to snipe at me as drink that beer I bought you last time. I’ll try and remember that. You seemed to think that Christmas dinner at my house was pretty tasty at the time but maybe you’ve forgotten after all these years. Yeah, my very young and untrained wolf-hybrid kept nosing your crotch. Big shock, it’s what dogs do for a living. I’ll mention it here first to save you some precious time, just like I did when I helped you with your flat tire and got you a great deal on the replacement. I know, I know, it’s always; ‘What have you done for me lately?’
