Why is somebody approaching her in a bar being rude? Who said anything about being rude?
Why is she advocating a double standard?
According to her own words, it is not ok to approach her, but it’s ok for her to approach you.
She thinks it’s ok for her to approach strangers in bars and hit on them, but it’s not ok for other people to approach her and hit on her. Why? Again, according to her because she’s a model.
You think this is cool?
CS is a lady with class, whose inner beauty will shine for years after Jess Hart has faded into an afterthought on a VH1 show.
Because going to a bar is the place to go when you want to be left alone, right? :rolleyes:
Does she get pissed off if she goes to Church and people talk about religion?
Because they don’t know you, they’re minding their own business and they aren’t asking you to invade their space with your sexual invitations. It’s harrassment. Leave people alone.
For many people, yes, and it’s the assumption you should make about them as a matter of course.
This is an asinine analogy. There proper analogy would be if she got pissed about people drinking in bars (or getting hit on in church).
So according to you, in bars nobody is allowed to talk to other people unless they already know them and nobody is allowed to try to pick anybody else up. Got it. Thanks.
No, women are allowed to go out without having to either tolerate the creepy old guys hitting on them or being called names if they don’t.
It’s disheartening that you’re only 43, though- I would like to think that your old dinosaur-like ways are antique and dying out, but no, I guess not.
I’m saying it’s rude to solicit random strangers for sex, and that women are not obliged to smile at you if you sexually harass them.
Yes. I see your point. When I want to be alone I often seek out crowded areas designated for alcohol lubricated socialization.
When I want to meet people and socialize I go to my remote mountain cabin in the Alaskan wilderness and bolt myself into the basement.
Your being stupid. Bars aren’t for drinking. They are for the combination of drinking and socializing.
Bars are for drinking, first and foremost, and you don’t get to decide whatever else somebody you don’t know might be in there for. They could be meeting somebody else, or just want a drink after work to unwind. You should not assume they they are there just waiting for you to solicit them with some sleazy pickup line. It sounds like you’re saying that if a woman is in a bar, she has no right to be left alone.
Dio just thinks *he *would actually have a chance with her.
Jess Hart didn’t say “I’m not going to have sex with you,” she said “Don’t speak until you’re spoken to.” There’s a small difference between the two statements. The first is reasonable, the second is obnoxious. The odds of Ms. Hart appearing at the little neighborhood bar I hang out at are infinitesimal, but if she does, I’m not going to hold my tounge because some stupid bimbo glares at me.
Back in my prime, when I was in my 20’s and skinny and in a band, I’d have had no shot at her, much less now at 44.
You being overly absolute about it. She was talking about guys hitting on her, not just any person talking to her at all.
I have no doubt that Normal Weight Obesity is a real thing. I assume it’s pretty much what Scylla meant when he referred the model as “technically obese.”
What i would like to see is his evidence, in terms of the woman’s height, weight, BMI, and fat percentage, that allow him to draw his conclusion.
What’s the relevance of it, anyway? It was just a name for him to be able to call her, a way for him to bring her down to his own level, in his eyes and, he hoped, ours. What does her body fat percentage have to do with anything?
I fully agree with your statement. Soliciting random strangers for sex is wrong. Sexually harassing women is wrong.
What this has to do with this thread, I have no fucking idea. I didn’t say sexual harassment was ok, nor did I say that soliciting random strangers for sex was ok.
In the article I quoted Jess Hart didn’t mention either of those things. What she said, and what I quoted and what I responded to was this:
“f you see me, or another model, in a bar wait until you are spoken too before you speak.”
That has nothing to do with solicitation or sexual harassment.
What I am debating is the No-speech-to-supermodels-unless-they-speak-to-you-first rule that Jess is attempting to enact.
If you would like to defend that rule, or you agree with it, I’m happy to hear what you have to say. You seem to debating something else, though.
I’m guessing she doesn’t get a lot of rejections saying “sorry babe—no fatties.”
No. She didn’t say anything about “guys hitting on her.” She said no speaking to her unless she speaks to you first. I quoted her in the OP. How do you miss that?
Yes it does. You know that was the context. Don’t oil up to her and offer to buy her a drink. She wants to be left alone. It’s pretty easy to understand.