Lost 1.16 "Outlaws"

About the “shrimp wagon”…

Don’t they call them “prawns” in Australia?

As for the boar, I saw it as the island’s mechanism for granting Sawyer’s wish, or at least granting him enlightenment. He can’t get revenge on the man who screwed with his family (his wish) so the island does the next best thing: uses his encounter with the boar to teach Sawyer to let go of his need for revenge.

I don’t think so.

Shrimp on the barbie and all that.

I think they call them prawns in England.

I liked this episode a whole heckuva lot. Sure, not a huge amount of revelation, but lots of little details about Sawyer’s character. He gets more and more interesting every time they add something to his backstory.

Oh, and Drew Goddard’s writing is just spot-on. Didja notice when Sawyer went tramping off into the jungle after the boar, he said, “I’ve got me some revenge to tend to,” and then they cut right to the flashback of him approaching the shrimp shack? Neat.

Also, the “I never” game is an extremely elegant means of serving another narrative purpose: catching up new viewers. They’re in sweeps, the show is a genuine phenomenon, so the writing staff has to be cognizant of serving both the loyal viewers up to this point and the people who are just tuning in to see what the fuss is about. The “I never” game allows Kate and Sawyer to trade revelations, most of which we loyal viewers already know but which Kate and Sawyer don’t know about each other, thereby providing nearly invisible exposition to people who are seeing the show for the first time. Sharp, sharp writing.

Oh, and watsonwil, totally agree on O’Quinn. That big broad smile was both drop-dead hilarious and an injection of liquid oxygen straight to the spine. They might as well go ahead and engrave the statuette right now. :smiley:

Be careful with spoiler-type stuff, please, which by convention in *Lost * threads includes interviews with writers.

No, they call them prawns in Australia as well. I asked Mr. Delaunay about that last night during the show. (He is Australian.) He figured the guy called the wagon “Sweet Shrimp” because he was an American in Aus. Even though Aussies call them “prawns” they would understand the word “shrimp.” I still think the writers messed up. I know if I were to open a shrimp wagon in Aus, I’d call them prawns, but maybe the writers figured Americans wouldn’t know what prawns are.

Here are links to two seafood restaurants in Australia. Lots of “prawns” on the menu but no “shrimp.”

A writer error, I think.

I came late to the thread last week, but my speculation there, and my current theory is that the island gives people what they need, not what they want.

Didn’t we catch a glimps of Michael building his raft? I like that the writers don’t seem to be leaving loose ends.

Yep. And I like the fact that the raft is still kicking around (and apparently features in next week’s episode), because it plays an important part in one of my more wildly improbable theories.

I wish they’d figure more prominently in the diegesis, though. Kate’s asking Locke what he was doing so far away from camp is a vague reminder of the concealed hatch that he and Boone found, but it’s driving me nuts that they’ve left it alone (or off-screen, at least) in the weeks since it was found. Aaargh!

Smeghead– I love wildly improbable theories. What’s yours?

I wish they’d figure more prominently in the diegesis, though. Kate’s asking Locke what he was doing so far away from camp is a vague reminder of the concealed hatch that he and Boone found, but it’s driving me nuts that they’ve left it alone (or off-screen, at least) in the weeks since it was found. Aaargh!

Smeghead– I love wildly improbable theories. What’s yours?

Something about the way he looked at Jack made me wonder if whether he was impressed or angered.

I’m still not convinced that Sawyer had a good vibe about Jack’s dad.

The first few seconds of the scene I agreed with you both.

Then I wondered if Sawyer was really all that impressed with Jack’s dad or Jack’s dad’s comments about Jack. Since the only clue we have after the shrimp hit was Sawyer’s “He wanted the bottle” statement, it made me wonder if Sawyer considered Jack’s dad to be yet another person who leads him into crap and that now he sees the same situation with Jack.

Knowing what we know about Sawyer so far, probably both. He seems like one of those guys who, when confronted with the realization that somebody is obviously and inarguably a superior individual in the ways that count, reacts by hating that person all the more and rededicating himself to that person’s destruction.

Regarding Sawyer’s car… I reviewed my recording and he definitely got out of the right side of the car, not the left. I couldn’t see a steering wheel, but at least they TRIED to make it look like a right-side-drive vehicle by having him exit from the driver’s side.

Random Pointless Observations:

Anyone else get the impression the boar was laughing at Sawyer when he didn’t shoot.

I have a feeling that we’re going to get a Green Acres crossover sometime soon. :eek:

“The island is the place to be
Hunting boars is the life for me
Jungle spreading out so far and wide
keep your mainland just give me that ocean side”

I think they should have at least one scene of Shannon wearing a bikini in each episode. In fact, they should have the “Lost Swimsuit Episode starring Shannon”

Sorry, I didn’t sleep much last night.

Screw that. We need to see Shannon and Kate do nekkid mud wrestling.

Favorite parts:
Kate: “So you believe your sister was reincarnated as a dog?”
Locke: “No, that would be stupid.”

**

Hurley: “And this is the part where the corpse sits up and chases us.”
Good episode.

I agree, but can he do an Irish brogue?

Actually, he said “That would be silly.”

The etymologist in me would like to believe that this is an important distinction. The Middle English form of “silly” meant “blessed” or “holy,” and is derived from the old German, “zelig,” which is “lucky” or “joyful.” (If memory serves.)

Of course, if the writers were thinking along those lines (which I wouldn’t count on,) a better choice would have been “weird.” :smiley:

Actually, there’s something very annoying (to me, at least) about what the writers have done in the last two episodes. They killed Ethan Rom.

Where did Ethan come from? Doesn’t matter…he’s dead.
Why did he want Claire? Does it have something to do with her baby? We’ll never know…he’s dead, and she very conveniently has amnesia.

Dammit! It feels like they wrote themselves into a corner, then wrote their way out of it very clumsily. I hope that’s not the case. I hope Zombie Ethan comes back.
:slight_smile:

I’m still a little confused about Sawyer. Can you help me out?

Who was it he thought he was killing? And didn’t Kate say he’s been carrying that letter around for 20 years? That would make the island-Sawyer the child in the earlier Sawyer flashback, or is this simply that Kate believes Sawyer to be that child?

No, the kid in Confidence Man wasn’t “Sawyer.” Sawyer was just working a practically identical con on the kid’s parents. He’d become exactly the sort of man he’d grown up hating. That’s why, when pajama kid appeared just as “Sawyer” was about to take his payoff, he had an attack of conscience and fled, leaving them with their (and “his”) money. That kid’s parents didn’t get wiped out, and he wasn’t orphaned by a murder-suicide as a result of it.

“Sawyer” thought he was killing “Sawyer,” the con-man who destroyed his family, but he was just tricked into killing some schmuck who had no connection to him at all.