Well, she did know that Hurley was the last to board the plane and that he was all sweaty and had his headphones on. That would seem to indicate pretty strongly that she was on the plane, unless the Dharmamites have spy video of the boarding process and in-flight activities available to review before infiltration.
Limbo is in limbo. If you’re in Purgatory, you are going to Heaven. You just have to wait a bit. Purgatory is sort of like waiting at a busy restaurant without a reservation. You’ll get a table, but you don’t know when.
Are you nuts? All Locke knew was that Charlie a) had a secret heroin stash, which must’ve dissapointed him given his role in helping Charlie come clean, and b) is acting like a lunatic who RISKED BURNING DOWN THEIR CAMP to STEAL CLAIRE’S BABY. 3 punches was letting him off easy.
Looked like it was pretty well out by then.
Also - I thought I read long ago that “limbo” was a mistranslation/misinterpretation of the original theological scholars’ interpretation of what would happen to unbaptized babies. They basically said “We have no idea” which somehow became “limbo”.
Well, I guess I’ll be in the minority that really liked this episode. It was the first one this season that left me with the whole confused “what the hell was that all about?” feeling that I got with nearly every episode of season one. They’ve been doing too much explaining lately and not enough mystifying. I liked it.
I also liked the “Kate sees a horse and just about everyone has seen Walt running around the jungle!” line. They ARE reading our threads! Hi, Lost writers!
I agree: 3 punches to the face seems to be a light sentence. I don’t think Locke lost his patience; he seemed calm and deliberate. After Charlie has been forgiven over and over for lying, stealing the baby previously, and hoarding the drugs, he needed to see that there would be serious consequences for his actions.
Yes, like when they pointed out that the washer and dryer were newer-looking than the rest of the furniture in the hatch. Everyone smile for the camera! 
Anybody else notice that Locke seemed a little desperate in this episode? Locke has been slacking in the enigma department lately. I bet he saw Charlie talking to Eko and felt threatened. Then there’s the way he blew off Claire when she asked about baptism. Boy, ya give a guy a computer, a filmstrip, and a room full of guns and he forgets about what really matters on the island.
Shame about Charlie getting down with the sickness. I’m guessing that the first symptom of the sickness is an inability to answer questions. I’ll let ya’ll fill in a joke with the political party of your preference.
Libby and Hurley [del]sitting in a tree[/del] chatting in the hatch. He must want to see her… in a purple shirt.
First Jack gets Ana Lucia. Now he’s the only one that will speak to Charlie. Is he trying to form his own League of Losers to fight the others? If he speaks to one more reject, he won’t be able to sit with the popular kids at lunchtime.
He could have burned the camp down! People could have been seriously hurt trying to put the fire out! He’s lucky they’re letting him stay anywhere near them unrestrained.
I was bored for most of this episode. Charlie is tedious, Claire is pretty much a cipher, and I love Locke, but not even he can make me interested in them.
Hurley with a crush is the cutest thing ever. Of course, that definitely means Libby is evil. Poor Hurley.
I don’t think Locke rocked, but I do think you’re spot on about one thing: Locke is losing his patience. Because, I think, he is starting to realize that he isn’t in control any more. For a while he was this International Man of Mystery, who seemed to know things about the Island and the Castaways, and he was given some degree of latitude. But ever since Boone’s death, he has lost some of his caché, and he’s doing whatever he can to get it back. His acolytes are slipping away from him, one by one – first Boone, then Jack, now Charlie – and he is desperately trying to cling to whatever power he (thinks) he might have had. That is why he keeps changing the combination on the armory lock, exerting his will while he still can. He alone controls who knows the combination, so he alone controls who gets in. I suspect he’ll be one of the first against the wall when the Revolution comes.
I didn’t particularly care for this episode, except for how further differences in Locke’s faith vs. Eko’s faith are being shown. Locke believes that the island has special “powers,” and this makes the island the center of everything; Eko believes that the island is part of everything around it, and that any percieved special powers come from somewhere else. Interesting contrast, to me.
Well, I liked it. Sure, not a lot happened but it was nice to get back to one of our core mythologies - Aaron as a force for good. After all, getting into Heaven is just a side effect of the real purpose of babtism - the removal of Original Sin. I especially liked the bit at the end where Ecko was performing the ceremony out on the beach while Locke was locking the Virgin Mary up behind and iron door. Evil Locke. Evil evil evil.
The dreams were creepy and the sight of Hurley in the Jesus robes was great.
As for Charlie, he’s still working my last nerve. And I seriously didn’t need to see that commercial. But mostly I just wanted to punch Liam.
I agree with Turek and Rikwriter and VLWages - I thought the ep sucked.
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Charlie’s change to mania - no drugs involved other than temptation, no trauma, just, all of a sudden “I’ve had bad dreams” - it felt like a poorly-executed change in character that the writers decided was good for the ep, but didn’t hew to the continuity of the character at all.
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his friends don’t help him? Hurley doesn’t look for the bright side? Please.
I found myself on the outside of the story the whole time, when the thing I value the most about the show is how it sucks me in…
The dreams and odd behaviour were probably the result of the Dharma communications project. The question is, is the illness that CFL talked about just people’s reaction to having information beamed into their brains?
Locke should have had faith in Charlie.
Kind of a weak episode. A little too surreal for my tastes. A few good moments.
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Libby was clearly thinking on her feet with the “stepped on my toe” bit. One great way to deceive someone is to throw what you know to be true in with a lie. I think Libby works for Dharma and was monitoring people at the Hospital (there is something about that Hospital. Locke’s mom was also there…)
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I had no problem with Locke’s reaction. A guy who he believes to be a heroin junkie starts a fire to steal a baby! What reaction is appropriate in that situation? A stern lecture? No way. A savage beat down is almost mandatory.
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I wouldn’t mind a couple of non-flashback episodes here and there. The flashbacks this season, other than Eko’s, have been pretty weak. Well, Jack’s have been interesting. I really want them to use the flashback device like they did last season: tie into the mythology. In season 1, almost every flashback gave you something new. This season, they have mostly played like a soap opera…
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I was happy to see some of the “WTF” discussions we all want to see. At least we know the Losties are talking amongst themselves. I really liked that Charlie used the oddities as a defense.
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Was the scene with Claire and Mama Charlie not a reproduction of a famus painting?
Count me in the “this episode sucked” group. I think it must be a building block episode, where they’ll establish certain things now that will pay off later. Thoughts, questions, musings:
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In Charlie’s dream, I think Claire and his mum were meant to represent the figures in the painting that was in his childhood home (the baptism of Jeebus). Anyone know the name of that painting?
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In Charlie’s dream, I could swear I saw a plane crash, and then the dove flew out of the jungle. Is that right?
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Monstre, I totally called that camera pan as well! Now I can tell my wife I’m not the only freak who remembers camera movements.
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In Charlie’s first dream, he was wearing his finger bands again. I believe they said FATE. Confirm?
Be careful what you wish for… 
Or Television Without Pity; that’s where I first heard it.
I saw a black bird, too, when the white one flew out.
As he said last episode, and forgot by the middle of this one, who is he to make that kind of decision for Charlie?
Note to Hurley: If a sexy chick you have the hots for asks if she’d look good in a slinky dress, you say YES!
I liked Charlie’s point, though… “Kate and Sawyer see a horse. Everybody starts seeing Walt. I get worried about Aaron, when he’s already been kidnapped by Ethan, and it must be the drugs???”
Was Eko marking trees because he’ll soon be making a new Jesus stick?
Uh-huh. And Charlie’s take on ‘saving the baby’ seems to be ‘steal the baby and run into the ocean.’
If I was Claire, I’d be remembering all those horrorible stories of delusional parents/caretakers who kill the charges to ‘save’ them from ‘evil’. If Charlie’s intention was to get the baby baptized, shouldn’t he be taking it to the PRIEST?
I think fearing Charlie was going to drown Aaron is a legitimate worry for Claire. If I were her, I’d be improvising some sort of snuggli so the kid can sleep without being out of my direct control.
I think you just might be on to something there. When Hurley asked if he knew her, she was quick to insist that it was from the plane, and was sure to throw in plenty of references (sweaty Hurley, wearing headphones) to make sure he knew she was really there. She knows what happens to people who are suspected as infiltrators from the Others. But it was obvious that she knew him from somewhere too, but didn’t want him to know where. I think she really likes him and knows it would hurt him if she brought up the mental hospital.
On a completely unrelated note: I just realized last night that my nephew’s girlfriend looks just like Claire, or will when she gets to be her age (she’s only 16 now).
I’m seeing spoilers that say…Libby is a compulsive liar. Maybe Libby was a patient at the hospital.
Count me in as another who felt this episode totally sucked. Actually, I think this was the single worst episode of LOST ever. I kept waiting for some kind of twist or insight at the end that would make up for or explain the previous 55 minutes, but nothin’. Unless there is some huge tie-back in an upcoming episode, this one felt like a total waste of time.