Lancelot? Interesting.
Thanks.
FWIW:
someone pointed out the Oceanic-mobile in the baby’s supposed-to-be room in Bunker #3. Claire and company find said room later, with a few of the furnishings still around. but i couldn’t help noticing that there seemed to be some smeary-type marks on the walls, roughly where the posters and other decorations had ostensibly been… and what furniture was left didn’t look nearly as spiffy as what was around earlier. given that Claire was obviously kept high as a kite during her enforced stay, i can’t help wondering – did she just hallucinate a lot of the nifty stuff that was supposedly there?
like, the smudges on the walls could be from where she was touching it, thinking she was examining the picture? and, perhaps because of auto-suggestions or things she was told were there while in her suggestable state, she just believed that all that cool stuff was in the room.
and another point… i’m a low-level knitter myself. i’ve kept it to simply scarves and shawls so far. are you telling me that someone that loopy could produce a fully-shaped baby bootie? and, weirder still, they’d let her have anything as potentially dangerous as knitting needles??? (hell, even the plastic or bamboo ones could still put out an eye or two, if you’re that determined.)
another weirdness factor: supposedly Ethan was administering some vaccine to the unborn baby by injections through Claire’s stomach. !!! without a sonogram for guidance??? wouldn’t he be just as liable to INJURE the fetus as to usefully inject whatever the hell he was supposed to be using on it?
Yeah, I was thinking some of the same things. How much of Claire’s flashbacks are real, and how much were a drug-induced haze? I think we can assume that the general ideas are correct, but not necessarily all the details.
And that needle going into her abdomen, yikes! You could put an eye out!
I swear, everytime I watch this show I come up more confused.
Beards
Bluebeard has a fake beard. Why, in the middle of a deserted island, would one even have costumes? And why did he feel the need to don a costume when he kidnapped Waaaaaalt off the raft and meet with Jack? Was he afraid that someone would recognize him?
Ecko. Okay, the two little things he cut off. Beards are symbolic in some cultures (e.g. Hassidic Jews and Muslims), but I have no earthly idea why he took out a knife and removed the two twirly things in front of Hale.
And then we have Locke. I noticed last night that he was unshaven, as was the perpetually unshaven Jack. Does this have any significance? I have no freaking idea.
Parent Issues
Michael loses Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalt and searches for him.
Rousseau loses Alex and is searching for her.
The others steal Claire’s baby in vitro and the others go searching for her.
Jack is searching for his dad.
Locke searched, and found (and was bitterly disappointed by), his biological dad.
Kate kills her step-dad and has a strained relationship with her mother.
From previews, we find out that Sun may be pregnant. Has Jin even been back long enough for her to be pregnant by him? :dubious:
Okay, do we have parent issues or what?
I thought the discolorations on the wall that Claire was examining were outlines of the animals that had been on the wall in her flashback.
I took that to mean that the stuff had been taken down. It looked like the animal shapes had been on the wall long enough to have the paint around them get discolored or dirty, which suggests to me that maybe Alex was raised there.
I thought it was crocheted, although I didn’t get a good look. I noticed only one stick-thing, which made me think it was a crochet hook instead of a knitting needle. Not nearly as sharp, although you could probably hurt somebody with one if you really tried. But in that condition, I wouldn’t expect her to be able to tie her shoes, let alone work a hook or needles.
That’s what my husband said, too. The medicine on this show has always been a little off.
It occured to me, the face that Henry made at the end of the previous episode reminds me of the close up of the psychic’s face when Claire’s original flashback indicated that he knew the plane would crash.
Kind of evil/creepy and nuetral at the same time.
I said before I didn’t think he was psychic, but that he was a conman who was trying to sell a baby.
But now, I think the “psychic” was an Other who made sure she got on the plane.
Sun’s father forced Jin into a life of crime in order to be accepted.
Hurley’s grandfather died right after he won the lottery.
Ana Lucia’s mother was her boss and tried to stop her from going out into the field, which led to conflict between them.
Sawyer’s family history includes a broken marriage, resulting in Sawyer taking the last name of the man who screwed his mom over.
Shannon’s stepmother wouldn’t help her go to school, and she slept with her stepbrother.
Yeah, I’m sensing a theme, but parent issues are pretty common in general.
That’s a bit of an understatement, isn’t it?
Little Jimmy’s daddy murdered his mummy in the next room, and then came into his bedroom and sat down on the bed Jimmy was hiding under and blew his brains out.
Harsh.
Let’s not forget that she was pregnant when she was shot, and she lost the baby.
I’m very curious about the fake-shabbiness of the Others. The feet walking by with the teddy bear on a rope, way back… were they Others? They were certainly shabby. But are the Others looking shabby to hide their technology, or to blend in with some other shabby group that’s there with them?
Someone said that maybe Claire’s psychic was an Other planted to get her on that plane… as much as I think they’re devious, I don’t think they’re actively bringing planes down. I get the feeling they’re just taking all the young’uns from any castaways who land on the island. Why? Dunno. To save them from the “sickness”? there’s not enough medicine for everyone; maybe they feel they should protect the children?
I have a medical question.
If you’re infected and showing symptoms of a disease, will a vaccine help you at that point? Like if I had chicken pox and got a chicken pox vaccine, would I be cured?
If Claire’s baby got the “vaccine” already…then it wouldn’t have gotten the rash that she thought would have been cured by the vaccine. To me, she was taking a huge risk by leaving her baby (not to mention everyone touching this spotty disease-ridden child…ick) on some wild goose chase that she probably could have been talked out of if people thought about it for a few minutes and tallked it out.
Oh, what am I saying? This is LOST. No one discusses. They just DO.
Count me in among those who can’t stand Claire’s constant screaming about her “bay-bay.” Ugh.
Yeah, a “vaccine” is to prevent you from catching the disease. But obviously if Desmond and all the Others were taking it regularly to prevent the sickness, then it wasn’t a vaccine as we know it. Talk about short-lived immunity if you have to take it daily!
I know that, if you’re infected with rabies but get a vaccine before you show symptoms, you can be cured. Once you start showing symptoms, though, you’re done.
As for the Other’s fake shabbiness, I think they want the Lostaways to think they are stranded on the island, when really, the whole thing is an experiment and they could leave anytime (kinda like… Dorothy Gale and her magic shoes).
Or not. 
Y’know, Lost writers, if you’re listening to this…
I’ve seen allusions to this on the web but, having seen every episode, I don’t remember this being a definite.
Can someone give me a direct reference?
-Joe
The rabies vaccine is the only one that can be administered post-exposure. But in the world of TV writers, this is such a common error that I don’t tend to think it’s any sort of plot point here.
Maybe the use of the word “vaccine” is the problem here. Obviously treatment can be given to people after infection to cure the disease, and having been infected at all will also confer immunity to that particular illness afterwards.
Right. That’s what I mean when I talk about how the TV world uses the word. They use “vaccine” as a synonym of “cure” all the time.
Don’t foget, the scenes on the boat where they took Walt occurred after Claire’s escape from the hatch. So presumedly they would have figured it out that Alex had help Claire escape.
And the pursuit of Claire seemed pretty dim-witted, going after her with lit torches and yelling her name. Granted, she was still under the influence.
So maybe this was what the Others planned all along. The surgery scene could have been a ruse. Maybe the Others had finished doing whatever it was they were doing to the baby and it was time to send Claire back to the beach for the next step. So they told Alex to help her “escape”.