Lost 2.22: "Three Minutes"

Parent checking in; would have no problems whatsoever killing, say, an intruder who was menacing the lives of my children. Would do so cheerfully, immediately, and with extreme prejudice. However, if some kidnapper gave me a BS deal where if I carried out a plan I’d get my kid back? First of all I’d be highly suspect that it would work (although I’d probably give it a try.) Second, NO WAY IN HELL would I actually KILL OTHER PEOPLE as part of the plan. Even if my kids were on the line. Because kidnappers - particularly these ones - can’t be trusted.

I hope we see Henry Gale again last week. I’d love to see his backstory, actually.

Sigh. “Last week”, of course, should be “next week.” That’s what I get for posting before coffee.

Anyone thought that perhaps the whole deal with Michael is yet another psychological test? See how far a man will go, how many lines he will cross, to save his son?

Whoosh… :wink:

I think you misunderstood John Mace’s comment. He wasn’t saying, “The next episode is about Claire’s backstory”. I’m pretty sure he was saying, “WHEN they do the next episode about Claire’s backstory, whenever that may be, ‘Who’s Your Daddy’ would make a good title for it.” He was making a funny…

[Mork]
Humor, ar ar!
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Or did you mean “after” coffee…?

Time gets confusing on the island, don’t it? :smiley:

I may have to set up my own Lost island to test that theory.

I don’t think Michael planned to kill Libby; she was an unfortunate victim of circumstance. He fired without really looking; I think in that situation he would have killed just about anybody, but would have been much more freaked out if he had killed, say, Jack, or Sun. Or Walt. Now that would be irony.

And, more to the point, would you be screaming “My bay-bee!” while doing it? :wink:

What I find somewhat disturbing is that these aren’t exactly random faceless strangers that Michael killed–he’s spent time with them and interacted with them. He may not have any reason to particularly like them, but I would hope most of us would be rather disinclined to kill certain people on request just because they’re not personal friends.

I mean, we all probably have co-workers with whom we have a passing acquaintance but no particular relationship–would the protective parents posting in this thread be willing to kill them?

Good to know your kids wouldn’t cause you to commit double homicide and lead your friends into a trap :slight_smile:

I think part of the irrational nature of Michael’s actions is due to the fact that he IS a parent but has never had a chance to BE a parent. So he might just be doing what he thinks he’s supposed to be doing, or making up for mistakes he made in the past (perhaps he thinks he didn’t fight hard enough to keep WAAAAAAAAAALT in the first place, in “real life”).

Hmmmm I wonder if this sheds light on any of those “why are they here?” LOST theories. Maybe this is an “Island of Second Chances.” Michael spent Walt’s life without Walt, and kept failing when he tried to get him back. Now he’s on the island and his “quest” is to get him back.

Or maybe the Others (the ones running Teh Big Experiment) know about Michael and Walt’s history and are running tests on Michael - Experiment 2234: How far will a man go to get his son back, and how can we manipulate him to do a better job at it this time?

Ugh. My brain hurts.

But Walt wasn’t a hallucination. Remember Miss Klugh asked Michael if he ever saw Walt were he shouldn’t have been? It is some strange ability of Walt’s not a hallucination of someone else.

Well, he needs to work on it, then, because he was only able to talk backwards. What’s the use in that?

And if this is the “Island of Second Chances”, there are a whole heck of a lot of people who are dropping dead before getting their second chance!

Well, then maybe that’s not what this island is. Perhaps it’s simply the “Island of Certain Death”. :wink:

I never said he was good at it.

Well, you’re right in that it is never explicitly said that she is actively looking for Alex, but considering she tortured Sayid to get info about Alex from him, I think it’s a fair assumption. Also, remember that she went with Claire to the Medical Bunker in order to search for clues about Alex.

I just thought of another example of Other omniscience: we learned in this episode that they knew Henry had been captured. How? Do they have access to the feed from the cameras in the Swan station? (They couldn’t have used the Pearl station because no one had been down there at least since before the plane fell on top of its hatch.) Or are these “remote viewing” experiments for real and they are somehow pseudoscientifically able to spy on our Losties from afar?

And another minor mystery: Mrs. Klugh said that they were incapable of going in and taking the people they wanted themselves. That doesn’t seem consistent with what we’ve seen of them. Contrary to Michael’s story, there appear to be more of them than there are of our Losties, and they appear to have no shortage of guns. Add to that the mad fighting skillz with which they’ve been portrayed (Ethan besting Jack bare-handed, Henry getting Ana Lucia, a tough girl herself, in a death grip despite having his hands tied, Mr. Friendly taking out Michael with a stone in a sling) and their invincible ability to sneak up on people in the jungle, they seem like they could easily raid our Losties’ camp, take whomever they wanted, kill the rest, and be back in time for dinner.

Maybe. All we know for sure is that some people believe Walt is some spooky “Special” kid. Earlier, it was very strongly implied that he had the strange ability to (unconsciously) turn mere imagination into physical reality – but unless his special power works by changing events in the remote past to effect the present, the most dramatic suggestion of this has since been shown to have a perfectly ordinary explanation. (That is, if some culty research group populating a tropical island with polar bears that are genetically modified to tolerate the hot climate can be thought of as “perfectly ordinary.”)

We also know that the island is home to some datura-like vegetation capable of producing true hallucinations (which appear totally solid and normal and are unaccompanied by obvious psychedelic visuals common to indole ring “hallucinogens” and other psychedelics, and which present without a contemporaneous “drugged” feeling.) Having experienced atropine/scopalamine hallucinations myself, I can report that they’re utterly unlike those associated with psilocybin, lysergic acid d, mescaline, etc – it’s like a waking dream integrated with your actual environment; subjectively, there’s no obvious clue that what you’re seeing isn’t real. Maybe a little “eerie” feeling, but nothing obvious, once the effect is in full swing.

Locke’s shamanistic trip (on Day 23) worked out really well for Boone with regard to his considerable issues surrounding Shannon. Surreptitiously dosing the guy ended up having positive consequences – maybe Locke was encouraged by that and figured he’d give Shannon some similar “help,” which had unintended consequences. Shannon’s “vision” occurred just a few days after the day that Boone died and Shannon went off the rails and tried to murder Locke. (On Day 42.) If Locke figured that he was an infallible shaman with access to Instant Clarity for all, he might have pulled a similar stunt with Shannon, expecting her to come to grips with all of her Boone baggage and find some peace because of it.

Perfectly ordinary explanation. (Relatively.) :stuck_out_tongue:

I am admittedly sometimes dense :confused: , but why was this ep called “Three Minutes?”

I am also thinking that something that ties Kate, Hurley, Jack and Sawyer together is that they were responsible for someone’s death in their flashbacks and they are haunted by them. But then so is Ecko, and presumably Jin and Sayid would be. I think maybe these are not the “good ones.”

Didn’t Miss Klugh tell Michael he could only have “three minutes” with Walt?

Nitpick: I’m pretty sure Mr. Friendly was using bolas.

On the upside, you’re not the only one who missed the reason for the episode title, so that should be heartening.

On the other hand… :stuck_out_tongue: