I still think it’s very significant that Hurley had so much trouble getting to the airport, and that the airline employee said something like “I don’t think you were meant to be on this flight”.
Some speculation about the next episode. For the record I don’t look at spoiler sites or anything else, this is just from looking at the preview at the end of the episode. In it we see the raft survivors hiding from what may be the Others. We see flashes of grubby people in tattered clothing. One quick shoot of someone holding a teddybear, maybe an adult. I think that whatever Desmond was talking about killed off the adults on the island. The children were left behind to fend for themselves and they became the feral “others”. In other words they are the lost boys. The pun works. Of course I am probably wrong, the previews are purposely misleading.
So… Maybe CFL was right all along. The black smoke meant that the Others were coming. But they didn’t come for our folks on the beach, they came for the Tail-vivors.
I wonder how long Ana Lucia and company had been gone from their bunker. They seemed to think that there were 23 survivors and came home to, what, eight or nine?
If they were gone for 3-4 days, that would match the timeline of last year’s finale when the Others were supposed to be on their way.
I also wonder how far (Charlie and Sayid? Were they the ones that went after Turniphead?) traveled to find the black smoke. Did they actually pass where the Tail-vivors are, or was the plume somewhere inbetween them?
I think that 23 people survived the crash, and in the next episode, we’ll discover that 14 or 15 of them were killed afterwards by the Others, bad luck, etc.
Has anyone noticed which *I ching * trigrams are used on the Dharma Initiative logo? On the various logos we’ve seen so far, are the same trigrams used everytime? I failed to pay attention to this and now I’m curious.
According to the recap, twenty-three originally survived, but only five are left.
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[li]Ana Lucia[/li][li]BBD, aka Mysterious Island Man[/li][li]Libby[/li][li]Bernard[/li][li]??? (other chick in bunker?)[/li][/ul]
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We don’t really know that the boat folk are Danielle’s capitalized Others – we’ve been frequently misled about who the Others are.
I still think they are entirely imaginary. The boat people will turn out to be earlier inhabitants, and might be equally obsessed with the “Others.”
They never expected to find 23 people when they came back. The answer of “23” was given in response to the question “How many of you survived the crash?” None of the tailies were surprised that they were gone – they knew already. It was just a tricky way of revealing that since the crash their number was being thinned.
My perception of the Others is still coloured by who introduced them – Danielle Rousseau, the namesake of a man who was driven to isolation by his paranoid belief that there was a vast conspiracy of shapeless “others” contending against him, and who alienated everyone who got close to him because he invariably decided that they were working with “them.”
I think Ana Lucia and the big guy are “protecting” the group from people they imagine to be working for the “Others” – because they’ve both contracted Rousseau’s sickness. Rousseau killed all of her companions because she “knew” that they were a threat. I think whatever drove her to do that is working its magic on Ana Lucia, too.
Admittedly, this theory doesn’t explain the boat folk, (or why the De Groots appear to be among them,) but it doesn’t have to, if we don’t assume them to be directly related.
There are no “Others,” and I’ve never believed there were. There’s merely competing groups of castaways. It is possible they’re being manipulated by an outside force, but there’s no group of evil, murderous “Others.”
There’s no “sickness,” in the sense that there is no disease, nothing with a pathology. The CFW was nuts because she was shipwrecked on a desert island. Desmond was going nuts for the same reason. The Tail Section group apparently didn’t deal real well with the crash, either. Some people go all squirrely faster than others.
The island is essentially a psychological laboratory. Possibly one left to go awry, or maybe an ongoing experiment.
The “Orientation Film” never says that the “world will end” if the numbers aren’t entered. In fact, the guy giving the instructions is so nonchalant about the whole thing it really SEEMS like an experiment. Does he say anything more than “there was an incident”?
I think we can safely say that some of the original experimenters are still there and that they are manipulating things. Bluebeard, for instance.
I’m begingin to question the authenticity of CFL’s story. Could she be a plant by the experimenters?