I don’t have a clean cite handy, but according to TPTB the count of 48 survivors does not include jet engine guy or the pilot but does include the Marshal. (This is consistent with the show itself. When Jack and Kate find the pilot he asks how many survived and Jack responds 48. Jet engine guy was already dead at this point and the Marshal was still alive. )
I agree 100%. Turbine Man doesn’t change the net balance one way or another. But in most lists, we see Pilot added (up to 49), and pilot immediately deleted (back down to 48). I think Turbine Man is equally significant.
In a show like Lost, where we are counting everything and beginning to note that the island is possibly working its way to having 23 or 42 (or whatever) survivors at any one site, then I think every death may be significant to that balance. Turbine Guy (turBAN guy would be a good Sawyer nickname for Sayid!) was alive post-crash and then the island (or modern engineering) decided to take him. It could mean something or tell us something about the desires of the island. I personally suspect that at some point, all of the six stations of the island will be manned with a number of survivors or islanders equaling one of each of the numbers. Turbine Man’s death would have mattered. So, it is not Hurley’s census that is at issue. I think the island or whoever is behind the mystery may have a census of their own at work.
But in all truth, I’d just really like to see poor Turbine man memorialized in our census of the living and dead.
His memory deserves at least that!
Does anybody read Rolling Stone? In the issue with Evangeline Lilly (last month’s?) on the cover, they have some spoilers, which I will box below. It is interesting, though, that I have not seen these discussed.
[spoiler]There is a lot of significance to white versus black. Whenever a white rock is shown, a black rock is shown as well. An example of this is seen with Adam and Eve, also with Locke’s backgammon board.
Numbers are indeed significant. Interestingly, the RS article puts the end of season 1 at 40 days, not 44. As in 40 days and 40 nights of Noah’s flood. Season 2 will end at 88 days, as in keys on a piano, which have white next to black.
One former writer stated that there was no overarching plan. :eek: [/spoiler]
One other thing. I rewatched the Season 1 episode with CFL last night (episode 9). CFL clearly states that 2 months after their stranding, the sickness began to take them. We are now at 44 days or so. We will see what happens in the next 2 weeks of island time or so…
And I was wondering the other day if there is a counterpart to the Blackrock? Maybe a Whiterock (or equivalent) somewhere else on the island?
Yep, I’ve been waiting for this.
I rewatched “House of the Rising Sun” last night, which is where Adam and Eve are introduced. Jack guesses that the corpses are 40-50 years old, based on the degradation of the clothing. Given that things degrade faster in moist, hot climates, I’d go with the lower number, which puts them pretty close to the time that the DeGroots were doing their experiments. I’m guessing that A&E were among the original “inhabitants” of the island. (Again, I think the Blackrock is a plant of some sort, and not an actual shipwreck.)
Adam and Eve couldn’t be the man and woman in the training video, could they?