Lost Object in Body Cavity - Medically Serious?

This could get detailed and somewhat gross pretty quickly so if you don’t like threads like this stop now.

OK. Looks like most of you are still here. Sicko’s . . . and and a few Doctors I hope. :smiley:

After some fairly rough intercourse with my girlfriend last Friday we got to play the game of where did it go? It being a regulation size lambskin condom. It was there (you know where) last time I checked. We looked all over the bedding, not to be found. Looked for it on the floor, no luck. Checked the ceiling overhead, just in case, but no. We came to the conclusion that it must be up in that place, so we looked in there. Still not found. While this has happened before its always been found, so this is fairly new territory for us.

The question is, how serious is this medically speaking? Should we wait a few more days for it to show up? Is there anything she can do to ease it out? She went and saw a Doctor today and he sent here to get pictures taken, but since she had no insurance they wanted $750 upfront. Without a fever or pain is she in any immediate danger? It’s not like the doctor was in a rush to check her in or send her to the emergency room or anything. The women at the hospital she told her story to just laughed, so I don’t feel like it’s time to panick yet. Is it?

Jokes are to be expected, but I’malso trying to get some real answers as to what would be a proper level of response.

It’s fairly common, and usually they work themselves back down and out. Some kegals in the bathroom can help, and she may find that her next bowel movement moves more than her bowels, if you know what I mean. As long as there’s no foul odor or fever, I wouldn’t panic. But if it doesn’t show up in a day or three, it’s probably worth the $750 just for peace of mind.

IANAD, but I have “lost” condoms before. :smack:

I guess part of my problem is why is this doctor telling her she needs pictures? It’s not like we are not sure if it is there or not. Shouldn’t she just be able to go to a gynocologist and have it taken out?

The doctor likely advised her to do the most thorough procedure, which would be having the doctor check with an endoscope. It’s basically a tiny video camera on the end of a long, usually flexible stick. The whole thing is about as big around as a felt marker. Those are probably the “pictures” your girlfriend is referring to.

In order to see much farther past the cervix, the doctor would need to use an endoscope (as a refresher, the anatomy from out to in goes: Vagina, vaginal canal, cervix, uterus) Is it likely that the condom got all the way past the cervix and into the body of the uterus? Not so much. But, not impossible.

However, there’s always the chance that it got stuck to the sheets and is, even now, hiding under the bed. If money was tight, I’d probably wait too, and run to the doctor if there was any sign of excess discharge (even if it looked like normal, just too much of normal), odd smells, discomfort, or fever.

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Did the doctor she see not even give your girlfriend a gynological exam? She doesn’t specifically have to see a gynocologist for a professional to check her vaginal canal with the speculum. If she went into their office for an exam and they just handed her a quote without even seeing what they could find without technology, then your girlfriend needs to go to a real clinic and needs to file a complaint against the doctor.

And shame on those nurses for laughing at your girlfriend. She should complain about them to the doctor. It doesn’t matter how funny some situation a patient is in might be (this one isn’t all that funny anyhow). You never ever make light of a patient’s concerns to their face.

This whole clinic sounds weird.

Well, I know how Bullwinkle J. Moose would handle the situation.

“Nothin’ up my sleeve…” (reaches in…) “Presto!”

been there. We went to the ER and the doctor just felt for it, determinded it was to hard to just pull out and used a speculum. I am very surprised the doctor you saw wouldn’t check her.

We also had a condom break in there. We checked the pieces and it looks like it was complete. It wasn’t. Next time it was time for her pap, the doctor found the piece (this was well over a month after the accident and there was no pain, no fever, no smell). Her cervix had a nasty mark from where the piece was resting. The doctor looked pretty alarmed and followed up with all kinds of exams. Nothing came wrong, but he wasn’t taking it lightly.

I suggest she gets herself checked by a good and understanding gyno.

Gave up on condoms after that.

FWIW, I wouldn’t define our sex as rough in any possible way. It just happens.

I’d disagree with your assessment of the possibility and have to say it’s pretty much completely impossible. Except during delivery or some other late-term parts of pregnancy, the passageway through the cervix is tiny, as in ~.1 mm.

I doubt a condom would just find its way up there by happen-stance.

NSFW if cervix’s are a bit too personal for you:
http://ariel.unimelb.edu.au/~dga/Cervix.jpeg

http://depts.washington.edu/nnptc/online_training/std_handbook/gallery/images/normCervix.jpg

Fair enough. I’m used to working with cow cervixes, which are somewhat larger.

If that’s the case, then I have no idea what the doctor might have been suggesting with wanting to take pictures. A good gyno exam should find anything in the vaginal canal. Any ideas? And where did the OP go to?

IANAD, but the first thing I’d try in that situation is douching with a mild solution to flush anything that’s not supposed to be in there, er, out. I’m not a proponent of douching in general, but this would definitely be a situation where I’d spring for a double-pack of Massengill.

There are some complications that make this a bit hard for me to handle as quickly as I would like. One is that she lives 3-1/2 hours away from me in another state, so I can’t go with her to the doctors office. Another is that while she does have a green card she does not have insurance or clearly speak or understand English fluently., especially medical terminology. She also has unpaid medical bills in several of the hospitals in her area. Lastly, she is a Mexican in an area that has a high concentration of illegals. People automatically assume that she is an illegal, but she is not.

She saw a gynecologist today and given a prescription for infection and told to get something that sounded to me like Vagisil. I asked if they had found the condom and she said no so I’m not sure how much of an exam she got. She is not in a very good mood about this and I believe that her worrying about this is causing her to imagine/compound her symptoms. The doctor told her to come back in three days, at which time I wil be able to go with her.

I’m not clear about where the condom is though to be, so… if it is in the vagina, she will likely begin to notice a bad smell within a couple of days that will alert her to its location. No need to wait, though. She should be able to ‘sweep’ her finger(s) around in the vaginal vault to locate and remove the item without alot of difficulty. If she doesn’t feel capable of doing this, she could possible get you to try or, better, get her OB-GYN to do it for her for the cost of an office visit.

If it is in the rectum, it should get evacuated with her next bowel movement.

No-one else has said this, so I will (and you can tell me to get lost or whatever but we are fighting ignorance here)…

Si Amigo

If you are losing track of your condom during sex, it is not going to prevent pregnancy.

If you are losing it in the vagina, it really isn’t going to prevent pregnancy.

The only way to use a condom safely as a contraceptive is to withdraw as soon as ejaculation has occurred while gripping the condom and before the penis goes flaccid.

It doesn’t matter if your girlfriend hasn’t finished at that point - you got to learn some delay techniques so that she finishes first. If the condom leaks semen, it could be all over pregnancy wise.

If you know this, or the condoms are for some other reason - then ignore me.
But if the condom is intended to prevent babies, use them properly.

Si

I’m not sure why you assume he wasn’t. I’ve lost condoms DURING sex, and when I say DURING, I mean DURING, before the man ejaculates or goes flaccid. Sometimes the little buggers slip off, y’know? Okay, I guess you don’t know. But I’m here to tell you - sometimes the little buggers slip off, even if you’re using the right size and it’s on properly and all that.

Most unfortunately, it seems to correlate with my most fertile times, probably due to extra lubrication provided by my nethers.

Why don’t you spell out just where the thing may have been lost?

Vagina? Rectum? Other?

If in the vagina, a good exam with a speculum should locate it. I’ve retrieved more than my share of lost condoms and tampons (plus a few toys) from that location in my day. If it is up there long, there will soon be a horrible odor.

If lost rectally, it should be passed out with the feces.

If other, you’d best explain what you mean by other.

I do know, and I have the son to prove it :smack:

My point is, in the search for the lost condom, it may be easy to lose sight of the Unprotected Intercourse elephant standing in the room. And any time the condom falls off (even if ejaculation hasn’t yet occurred), there is a risk of pregnancy that is significantly higher than when the condom was on, and additional steps should be taken to reduce that risk.

Si

Yeah, I guess it’s too late now, but if it was vaginal intercourse and the condom was used for pregnancy prevention, use of a packet of emergency contraceptive pills probably might have been in order.

Dear god, man, I don’t even want to know.

I didn’t know Hal Briston had a sock. :wink:

There’s only one other orifice I can think of and if the condom was lost there I would think that too, would also pass with the feces, it would just take longer.

::Cough:: :eek:

Si

found it!