Never played mafia, but I’ve followed a few games. I agree with this. I can’t see anyplace that a single word could be added/removed/replaced in the clue and have the clue make sense, much less be prejudicial to town.
The gameplay and voting also seem consistent, at least to me, with scum perhaps not knowing Irene Adler to start the game. That wold also be consistent with the color.
I think mafia is dead on the SDMB.
Prior to this game, we had a long hiatus from the previous SDMB game. I can’t even remember it. If anything were to have a higher participation, it should have been this game. But no, this game is as dead as I’ve seen in a long time.
The last game that was run here was also Storyteller, and it was only about a year ago. It was very successful.
This is depressing. 
Yes , but 50% of the players are dead, although it has been quiet. I have a feeling active scum are jumping on Malahoth, that said, his clue suggesting is just so vague, his supposed list of five ’ people who may or may not be scum’ doesn’t sit right . Then again, why would a scum , who has active access to a scum board be so unaware or the points raised previosuly.
Inners reasoning and the whole one word thing is also pretty odd. We know that the godfather role can move, we don’t know how many times. Scum could be multi bussing the the GF role knowing it can move on and claiming towniness based on finding the GF. Id be poking anyone who was suggesting all the GFs are dead. It is also possible scum knowing sherlock is dead are getting bold and ganging up on active town banking on inactive town not engaging .
Ok story, I’ve changed my tune. Murder someone. Gruesomely.
Maybe we should just try smaller games and make a commitment when signing up to actually play.
I’ve voiced my opinions on this matter via PM.
I’m assuming there is information about the game state that I’m not privy to; otherwise, extending the day makes absolutely no sense at all. The Day is a week long already! most of which was absolute silence. (In my opinion the day length is too long). I don’t see how extending the day ameliorates anything.
But there is probably something going on behind the scenes that makes more sense.
Thinking about it more, it seems highly likely that key roles are absent. Recall the Day Two extension, it was revealed that many players had not submitted their action. I don’t think we’ve revealed all that many power roles so far so…
And now another extension.
Poor storyteller.
Yeah, after the work that goes in to a setup , this must suck.
I would agree that the delays must mean some critical roes are absent, I am sure any scum who are metagaming would kill any newly active players or subs. Then again maybe the scum are the absent ones.
This would be a tough game to replay , making all the clues , but different ones would be quite a task.
For what it’s worth, I’m obviously not happy that two of the nonparticipants were Scum, but I think that Storyteller made the right decision to mod-kill them.
Meanwhile, there is obviously still at least one Scum in the game. Assuming no power roles remaining and equal skill on both sides, a single Scum among 8 Townies has an approximately 27% chance of victory, and two Scum among 6 Townies have an approximately 55% chance of victory. So we’ve still got a chance.
I’m surprised that the only town no-shows were both vanilla. I guess the lack of actions from earlier in the game were largely scum no-shows. The high number of dead vanilla townies is unusual. The only dead town power roles are sherlock and the masons/doctor. That isn’t really all that much. But I would think that a town power role would have claimed something by now. Is it possible that all remaining town are vanilla?
I can bury my multiple backup GF theory now too.
Agree , best that could have been done.
I wonder how the whole "may or may not be a recruit mechanism " will pan out
also what is a
“Scum Doctor Avoiderer”
I assume the poisoner was an extra kill which was never used.
If scum have 2 GFs, a Doc avoiderer(?), a poisoner and now a one shot power to balance
, and town only had the Sherlocks mix of powers, one mason and a mason doctor it would seam to balance in favor of scum ( unless are very few scum total). In the simplest form of Mafia you have a doc and a detective balanced by the Godfather and the vanilla town/ scum goon balanced by numbers, it would seam odd that the only apparent additional town powers ( two masons one of whom is the doc) is countered by a moving GF and two more roles plus an extra one.
Perhaps our remaining town power roles just haven’t found anything useful. Isn’t it about now people all start calling for a mass claim and see what falls out.
Even non-investigative roles can still have useful information. For instance, if a role-blocker says “I targeted A on Day 1, B on Day 2, and C on Day 3”, and the kills apparently went through on those days, that’s evidence in favor of A, B, and C. Not necessarily very strong evidence, unless the Town thinks that there was only one Scum at that point, but still something.
I have a half-baked idea for a game where the Day ends when the all-powerful game god decides it ends. Which would hopefully be right around the time that discussion is winding down for the Day. OR it could be right in the middle to fire everyone up and create discussion. Might be a solution to our cricket concerts.
Thoughts?
The problem with that is that it puts the moderator in the position, to some extent, of deciding whom to favor. Personally, I think that the ideal is for the moderator to do a bunch of planning before the game starts, and then to never need to make another decision after the roles are assigned.
And in this case, the moderator has given the players the power to decide when the day ends, which would be a cure for the crickets. The players are, for whatever reason, opting not to use that power.
Meanwhile, I meant to ask this as soon as Daphne died: What was it that prompted you to investigate me? It seems like I always manage to draw suspicion from Townies (regardless of what side I’m on), and I’d like to figure out why.
Odd thing from Astral "I mean, I agree town has played awful this game, me more than most, but we’ve all blown this together, including yourself. " Seams Astral is pretty certain inner is town. PIS?
Oh I agree that’s a best case scenario. And I take your point that we are swapping one problem for another. I guess I just feel like we have to either do something or give up on having enjoyable SDMB Mafia. This game is a prime example - lynch two godfathers in a row and you can’t get town participation??? They should have been babbling drunk with excitement!
They still haven’t managed to get enough hammer votes?
I’m sure they’ll get enough votes for a hammer by tomorrow sometime.