Fuck her and her parents. I know if I were in their shoes I wouldn’t try to ruin an entire fucking country becasue they don’t hang someone without any evidence for the murder of my slutty drug addled daughter. My sympathy goes out to kids who are abducted when they are where they should be, not when they’re out fucking and drinking at age 18, and are about to go and fuck one or more guys they met ten minutes ago.
I think he meant that while the parents would say: “She was a nice girl! She didn’t do drugs!” the reality was a bit different than what parents’ blinders permit them to see.
My mom has told my SO what a great teenager I was. A model kid, really! Never had to worry about me or my sister or what we might be getting up to. We were such upstanding, responsible kids! Meanwhile, my sister and I could tell you stories of blowing fans to try and get the pot smell out of the basement before out parents got home, and wondering what the hell to do about the cigarette burn my drunk 16-year-old buddy left on the dining room chair.
My sister and I were pretty good kids. But we were far from angelic. We went to parties and drank underage (getting shitfaced a’plenty) and we have stories from the time our friend’s party got busted when an entire high school showed up uninvited and started trashing the place We ran away from the cops, through the woods like a bunch of stupid assholes. We look back on these stories with a laugh and say: “Ha! Good times!”
If our bodies had turned up in the ravine, I’m sure the newspapers would be quoting our parents as saying: “They were good kids! Never drank or did drugs, they did their homework and tried out for sports teams! They wouldn’t willingly get drunk!”
Bascially, she may have been more of a party girl than her parents thought.
In the end, it doesn’t matter if she was a “nice girl” or a “party animal”. She didn’t deserve such assholish treatment. A girl ODs, you call 911 (or the equivalent). If you’re a spinless jackass, call 911, watch for the ambulance, then run away. You don’t just watch her die and dump her in the ocean.
It strikes me that Joran is really quite proud of his accomplishments (conning those stupid cops!). So, as time goes on, he is likely to get careless…I wonder if he and the Kalpo brothers are liable to exchange some emails.
I hope he does get caught-that smirk on his face (after he threw wine in de Vrie’s face) was a classic pose…
:rolleyes:
Pardon me? Did you miss the “pretty white girl” syndrome that the rest of us have been discussing? You seem a bit upset, is there something we can get you?
Ah, now I’m back at my laptop (virtual keyboard on the phone is difficult to post with).
magellan01, have I offended you in the past, and that screed was a carry-over? 'Cause you are way over the top.
As I have stated before in other threads (and Coldfire has mentioned right here), the Holloways have slagged Aruba up and down the block over this, saying that the country is unsafe, that the law enforcement and government are incompetent, that the people would actively cover up the murder of a tourist, and a bunch of other bullshit.
In my experience, that couldn’t be further from the truth. Pound for pound, Aruba is one of the safest places around. The people are friendly, polite, helpful and extremely well-educated. Even in the “back alleys” of Oranjestad, my antennae never twitched once. Ordinarily, the greatest danger is probably sunburn or alcohol poisoning, or perhaps losing a bunch of money at a casino. It is an order of magnitude safer than Mexico.
So hell yes I am offended by the bullshit that her parents spew every time they are in front of a microphone, TV camera or book publisher. I hope that if I ever am in the position of having a child murdered, I would conduct myself with dignity and self-respect. I’m pretty sure I would, as that is my general comportment, even in the face of really bad stuff.
So megellan01, care to discuss my actual thoughts and comments? Or do you just want to call me a cunt again? Doesn’t bother me either way, just trying to plan my afternoon.
magellan01… um… I like yah and all, but, too much.
Bullshit. You weren’t “discussing” squat. That was your first post. So stop trying to seek protection in the throng. People were registering various opinions on many different aspects of the case. You chose to chime in with your oh-so-insightful stupidity. Namely:
So the fact that she might have been pretty and white lessens the sorrow one should feel when an 18 year-old girl possibly gets raped, probably gets killed, and definitely has her body dispensed with like a piece of trash? And the parents? Well, I guess they’re white, and not bad looking, so empathy and sorrow is lessened, right? And just to point out what should be obvious, the missing white girl syndrome can be acknowledged without one feeling the need to diminish the sorrow they feel for any particular victim. The Syndrome is a problem en masse. When you look at each individual case, the girl is just as dead—regardless of attractiveness or skin color. So, fuck off.
dude- totally missing my point. I am obviously not expressing myself very well.
My beef is with the media’s saturation coverage of “pretty white girls” who go missing or are killed, but hardly a word about the non-PWGs who go missing or turn up dead. It has almost nothing to do with Miss Holloway- she’s just the one in the news this week. My venom is towards her parents. I thought that was clear. I did say that her behavior was questionable, though.
Jump back. Are you being obtuse on purpose?
I apologize for typos- phone post.
Total hijack, but the weirdest thing to me is Natalie’s mother’s romance with Jon Benet Ramsey’s father. I think it’s the first time tabloid families have formed a dynastic union.
In addition to being a cunt, you seem to be an idiot, too. Reread what I wrote in my last post—#87. Explain precisely where I was wrong. Now, if you want to claim that your last line I cite was poorly worded and doesn’t reflect your feelings on the subject, be my guest.
Gah! Jesus… I am not diminishing what happened to that girl! I am lamenting the many other girls who die unknown and ignored because they don’t catch the media’s fancy. You really seem to be putting something on me that isn’t there. I can’t quote individual lines of your post right now though.
And I have had enough of you calling me names, okay? I am neither a cunt nor an idiot.
Yeah, creepy. I wonder if Ted Haggard will perform the ceremony? :eek:
Who let Jane Fonda in?
Oh, fuck you.
She hasn’t been raped and she hasn’t been killed.
There is no evidence whatsoever of that happening, so dial back your hysteria a bit, please.
“Pretty Missing White Girl Syndrome” (aka Missing White Woman Syndrome") has been featured on major news outlets (USA today’s “Spotlight Skips Cases of Missing Minorities”, The Washington Post’s “The (White) Women We Love”, MSNBS’s “If you’re missing it helps, to be young white and female” and many, many more).
Apparently, it’s okay for CNN to write a story about “missing white girl syndrome” but don’t you dare say anything here or you’re a “cunt”.
The media frenzy around the Holloway case is not helping her case, but is unfairly painting the safest island in the Carribean as a frightening, dangerous place to visit and when you really need the help of the locals, it’s probably not helpful to spread the word worlwide that they are a bunch of (at best) incompetant yahoos and (at worse) murderous feinds.
Bottom line is that Natalee Holloway’s family deserves justice for her daughter’s death.
You can fault the *media * for focusing on just one type of victim at the expense of another. Fair enough. But faulting the parents is ridiculous. They are in more pain than I could ever imagine. The fact of the matter is that none of us KNOWS how we’d react if we were thrown into similar circumstances.
But I will tell you this: If your child goes missing, you’d have my unconditional sympathy, whether your child was blonde or black haired, a saint or a slut, a drug addict or a choir boy. Even if you appeared on every talk show imaginable, including the despicable Nancy Grace, every stinking night of the week, you’d still have my sympathy.
… deserves justice for their daughter’s accidental but voluntary drug overdose
… deserves justice for the coverup of the circumstances of their daughter’s accidental but voluntary drug overdose
What is justice in this case?
Mom is a attention hungry whore exploiting her daughters death for fame. Way to go mom, cash in on your kids death by writing a “therapeutic” book about it, then going on a book tour after cosmetic surgery! I got an idea, if writing a book is so threapeutic, why not write it, then put it in the closet without publishing it? Then you have the threapy without the fame whoring.
I’ll bet there are parents of girls whose disappearance and death got no media attention who wonder about what might have been- if only their daughter’s case had gotten that much publicity, maybe her killer would have been found.
Of course I sympathize with parents who have lost children to violence- I know several personally. But I feel WORSE for the parents who are left with a two page police report and nothing else.
Perhaps you should take your own advice and write a therapeutic book to help explore why you’re such a negative, angry person.