Newsflash! Britney ain't a virgin! Also, hot oil can burn you!

That goes straight beyond “cynic” into “sociopathic fucknut.”

Here we go again. :rolleyes:

What the hell is so bad about having sex with a virgin? He didn’t rape her. It was consensual sex. She wasn’t ruined for life. There was no reason that she couldn’t have gone on and had normal, healthy relationships. If she was really so destroyed by this one guy then she had other self-esteem problems before that.

So she got played for sex? Is that worse when it happens to virgin than anybody else? If I had a nickel for every woman I know who’s been played for sex I’d be Bill Gates. Hell, I’ve been played for sex and dumped before. Life goes on. It wasn’t a tragedy. What’s the big fucking deal? I’m really supposed to think it’s the end of the world if some girl says she’s going to save it for mrriage, she breaks her own vow and then she finds out that [choke] he didn’t really love her?

I say join the fucking club, sweetie.

This particular girl wasn’t even religious, ** Mockingbird **…far from it. She just made a personal choice. The only reason people even knew about it is because if the conversation turned to sex or who was or was not having it, then she was opinionated and she let her choice be thrown out there as an option.

She wanted to wait to have sex until she was married…not for religious reasons…but for strictly personal ones.

She changed her mind under false pretense. She thought she was with a man who loved her. Not somebody using her for a bet or to prove something.

I see I’m getting lost in the dust, but to ease this out for myself, I meant it was funny like in a movie. You’ve seen this kind of stuff in films for decades. It’s an amusing, assholish thing to do.

Like pissing in the punch before the Prom.

I do not condone it as something to actually do in real life, and I don’t share other’s sentiment’s about folks with those beliefs being sanctimonious.

I merely think it’s short-sighted and not very practical.

But if people want to live without sex, not my business.

DtC, do you remember when you posted utter bullshit about the family here in Baltimore whose house was firebombed last year? You asked your wife to read you posts and she told you what an asshole you were being and you came back and apologized.

You should get your wife to read what you posted.

No. He made a bet with his buddies that he could. So, basically the guy lied to fuck her, and then leave her.

Yeah, it happens. That sure as fuck doesn’t make it right at it definetly isn’t commendable unless your a sick fuck.

It’s like somone deciding they don’t want to drink, period. So, some asshole makes it his goal in life to make the person pound back a 26 ouce of Rum.

It’s a million laughs for everyone, isn’t it?

It fucking well is, DtC.

For some girls and women, virginity is incredibly important. It’s something that you have that’s yours, something that means a lot more than a quick thrill. Not all women, sure, but many.

I didn’t lose my virginity until I was 22 – out of high school and college both, moved in with my boyfriend. Ayup – we didn’t have sex until after we moved in together. I was so damn terrified…I’d kissed other guys before, but I’d never ever EVER trusted anyone enough to sleep with them. It’s a hell of a lot more of an emotional investment than some dicks seem to think.

You have no damn clue what it’s like, DtC. I’m not saying you have to be female to understand, but it would appear that you have nowhere near the emotional investment in sex that many women have.

So piss the fuck off. If you don’t care, fine, but don’t expect to be able to spout that kind of poison without getting dogpiled.

I can accept “fucknut” but “sociopath?”

Christ, I made a sarcastic joke. I admit to a certain cynical gratification when one of these promise-ring wearing, holier-than-thou types gets shown up as a hypocrite. So sue me.

Unfortunately, acting like an asshole isn’t really grounds for a civil suit.

Okay, I didn’t mean for this to turn into a pile on or pitting of ** DtC** or for the OP to get lost in this.

I can see your point if some girl goes around spouting her religions convictions and telling everybody else that they are horrid people for having sex before marriage. If she then were found out to have slept with someone I might even get a chuckle out of how hypocritical she was. But that isn’t the story that was presented. This girl wasn’t religious. This girl didn’t tell everybody how wrong they were. She made a choice for herself that someone else got her to change under falseness. She slept with him thinking it was love. Thinking it meant something.

And she did not have self esteem or other problems previously. Straight A student. President of the Student Council. Well liked. Great personality.

But giving herself to someone sexually was a big deal to her and then to have it thrown up in her face and everybody know about it and on top of that to find out it was all just a game was very traumatic to her.

Can we at least agree on that?

If her virginity was so important to her then why did she give it up? Losing her virginity was her choice. It’s not like it was stolen from her. And it’s not like her whole life was over just because she wasn’t a virgin. It’s an incerdibly frivilous and unimportant thing to attatch that much emotional value to.

I’m failing to see how someone is damaged just because they choose to lose their virginity.

I wonder if she only gave him straight sex or if she took it up the pooper?

God you’re such an asshole about anything that has to do with any kind of bush.

Because they choose to lose their virginity under false circumstances. Even Ray Charles can see that.

Ok, we can agree. I got the impression from the initial post of a certain type of girl (and we all know the type) who goes around preaching at everyone else and expecting that her own virginity is some kind of special virtue that makes her better than anyone else.

The truth is I actually don’t like guys who play women for sex but I thought if a guy was going to do it he might as well go for one of those self-righteous, holy roller types. I retract my comment about him doing “God’s work” as it was tasteless and probably not applicable in way I thought it was. I don’t hear anybody laughing either so obviously it wasn’t funny either.

My stance, so it’s clear:

Virgins have the right to be virgins for any reason they want.

I don’t necessarily think it makes them special or virtuous.

Guys who lie to women for sex are assholes whether the woman is a virgin or not.

If someone preaches abstinence to others and then has sex his/herself, it’s funny.

I hope I’ve dug myself at least part of the way out of this. I’m really not this big of a dick…really…I’m not…

[slinking away

Holy shit that was funny, World Eater.

Ok…good…because let me be next in line to tell you that your original comments were making you look like just that very thing.

All’s well that ends well.

Are you talking about Britney or the girl in Aries story?

In the case of Britney I think it’s quite a pertnent question. The public has a right to know. :wink:

I wanna know if shes Bicurious…

Sociopathic’s probably a little harsh, DtC.

And yeah, dude, I knew you were a bit of a dick, but that seemed kinda surprising, even for you. :slight_smile:

We’ll go with “fucknut” and be done with it.